[Kazan]

mirrored http://www.democrats08.com/media/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf

[Gank]

Meh, heard it in some song.

[Gank]

Presumably you've seen this stuff Kaz:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
And if I get you right, thats affadavid is somebody admitting to rigging the 2001 elections?

[Kazan]

i rarely go to CD because of the CGCD forums - i am on very hostile terms with their admins (the ex-kerry-forum admins) because they're powertripping

[Kazan]

erg cgcs forums

[Jetmech Jr.]

I'd love to see that argument, .

[IceFire]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Honestly, all I see nowadays is stuff about how bad we're boned, how the world's going down the drain, etc.

Now does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this whole damn mess?

If we knew...we'd be trying to do something to fix the situation.

At the moment, we're along for the ride with everyone else.  Hopefully my/our generation, when it gets into power (in 25-30 years) will remember all of this stuff thats going down and try and fix it.  Of course thats very optimistic of me

[Flipside]

Well, it'll be my lots turn first, about another 5 years and my generation should probably start making a more front-row appearance in the politcal field (most politicians don't come to notice tell they are around 35-40). I have hopes....

[JR2000Z]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Honestly, all I see nowadays is stuff about how bad we're boned, how the world's going down the drain, etc.

Now does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this whole damn mess?

It's the UN that's made this mess. It's they who should clean it up.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by JR2000Z

It's the UN that's made this mess. It's they who should clean it up.

It's the countries who go ahead regardless that actually caused the mess.  The UNs failed in being able to 'keep the leash' on the big boys of international politics.

[Ford Prefect]

I love how people think that the state of the world can be attributed to one organization.

[NGTM-1R]

Kick Libya, Iran, China, etc. out of the UN, or at least keep them off commitees they have no place being on, like the Human Rights Commitee. That'd be a good start.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
[B***ick Libya, Iran, China, etc. out of the UN, or at least keep them off commitees they have no place being on, like the Human Rights Commitee. That'd be a good start. [/B]

Because chucking them out of a negotiation forum will obviously encourage them to listen to the nations no longer talking to them?

[Gank]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
[B***ick Libya, Iran, China, etc. out of the UN, or at least keep them off commitees they have no place being on, like the Human Rights Commitee. That'd be a good start. [/B]

Kick the US out while they're at it, they're human rights record is starting to look like something you'd see in the middle east.

[Kazan]

gank: indeed

[phreak]

Originally posted by Ford Prefect

ill see you that and raise:

[NGTM-1R]

Originally posted by Gank


Kick the US out while they're at it, they're human rights record is starting to look like something you'd see in the middle east.

Amusing, since we started the concept. And your comparison cannot and will not hold water.

Go ahead. Try and prove me wrong.

[Ford Prefect]

It was either the US or Jesus. I forget who.

[NGTM-1R]

The term "human rights" was coined by Jimmy Carter, I believe.

If not, he was the one who got world attention paid to them as such.

[Ford Prefect]

Okay. I'm going to coin a word-- "gubblebubble," and it's going to mean shooting someone in the head. I have just invented the concept of shooting someone in the head.