[Flipside]

ngtm1r, Human Rights was around as a concept for Years before the US existed, sorry, but that's a completely ridiculous comment, and quite frightening that you believe as such. As I said earlier, Atlanteans and Pharohs......

[Liberator]

Originally posted by Gank


Kick the US out while they're at it, they're human rights record is starting to look like something you'd see in the middle east.

This is amusing because the US funds most of the UN and the meeting hall is on sovereign US soil and without US troops the UN doesn't have enough teeth to back up it's bark.

[Flipside]

Well, actually, iirc the US hasn't paid a penny to the UN for years anyway

[Kazan]

yeah... we've reneged on our dues for around 6+ years

[pyro-manic]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Link times out for me.

Um, it's a tough question, isn't it?  It's easy to find problems, but how to fix them is the toughie.  

Some stuff, admittedly, is obvious; need a complete ban and removal of nuclear weapons, strengthen the UN (and ensure it is kept fair & democractic) so as to better act against illegal wars and breaches of human rights, bring in some proper environmental legislation (particularly for the tertiary economies; the 3rd worlds relatively slower development means it'll take time to get past polluting technologies), and convince every nation to spend its defence budget on solving the ills of humanity.

Of course, such charity is so unlikely it'll either take a paradigm shift of human nature or massive alien invasion to make it happen.

Agreed. People are bastards. As long as that's true, there'll always be trouble...

[aldo_14]

I believe the US is $1.3 billion in arrears to the UN.

[Nuke]

change is a fallacy! the human race is going through the same cycles over and over again! its been doing it for millinea! the only way to permanently end human suffering is do destroy humanity! it is imposible to fix things because we are each stuck within the constraints of our limited minds! we repeat the same worrds over and over in order to understand eachothers reality and soon become lost in the madness! we must sentacen our race to the voidance of nuclear haulocaust! A new race shal be forged in the nuclear fires of a man made hell! ...and it is they who shal look back and see a reality of medness and chaos and perhaps they will learn to save thime selves from our mistkes! for if they fail they shall suffer our fate! Now bring fourth the fires!


ok having said that i will leave you with the lyrics to dimmu borgir's Blessings upon The Throne of Tyranny

Infected by invalid behaviour
While capturing the stench of divine putrefaction
Confess to slavery for the world saviour
Give praise and inhale the corruption

The Enfeebled provides the fool
The Disabled provides the tool
The Apathetic demands the affection
To those suffering from their own satisfaction

Devour in self-deceit, conjure the righteous plague
Testify today´s contradiction, glorify tomorrows deed
Inconceivable moral priest, hide in preferable dress
Invite to another pleasure feast, the concealment of joyful laughter

The decrepit innocence of your correctness and well-chosen
Elicits the source of the need for immediate forgiveness
Submit to no grace but the spiteful of your disease
Apply to join the unlimited disgrace and a settlement in the skies
And turn the confusion among your children into self-stimulation
The incarnation of your prostitution, the true Evil in disguise

With the ignorance from your cross as the witness
The truth of your tragedy make you justice
In your mirror the high spirit of kindness
Looks like malice

Condemnation of life by the living dead
What a premature judgement, contradiction to the core
How unfortunate I am, cursed to spend time on a battle already won
The shame that will be guarding your grave says it all
Retreat to the crypt and make it worthwhile
Recall my sins furthermore but still be watching yours with a smile

[Clave]

You all worry too much...

[aldo_14]

Let us be happy while we're still young


...

[Zarax]

... and be raped as we grows...

[Nuke]

*goth mode*
we are already raped at conception. anyone who creates life creates suffering.

[aldo_14]

If there's one thing that I learned when I was a child
It's to take a hiding

[Clave]

Everyone thinks they can change the world, but the reality is that the world changes them....

[Nuke]

indeed. the problem is that we give all the power to people who dont have to struggle to survive. name a world leader that lives on less than a dollar a day. its sad that the price of a single 200 million dollar f-22 fighter plane could feed americas homeless for quite some time. i fail to see why we even need f-22 fighters, all are current conflicts are ground based and can be faught with an 8 million dollar a-10 warthog. rich people never learn to pinch a penny, hence government spending. but that is just one of many many many problems

[pyro-manic]

Better yet, cut the military budget by half and wipe out Third-world debt.

Nobody needs F22s. No potential aggressor has the air power to chellenge any Western country with Cold War-era technology (F15s, Tornados, Mirages etc), let alone F22s or EFA Typhoons. They're a shocking waste of money.

[Kazan]

military spending is the most wasteful spending out there

we could be getting a lot more "bang for our buck" - but if you dare cut defense spending you're "OMG! YOU'RE WEAKENING THE MILITARY!!!!!!!1111111one11111!!!!!!!eleven111111!!!!!!"

[Grug]

hehe, eleven.

How about creating art, games, and music which promotes such things.

Its all todo with human behaviour.
Take the sixties for example. All the hippies etc, promoting love and peace at music conserts etc.
Take todays, and music is about pain, suffering, etc.

What the kids of today are doing for fun, reflect on what they will be doing as adults...

I'm sad to say that games may enter the formula there as well. Even I admit, that my favourite games are to do with war and conflicts. While some might end with peace and love, its not what your spreading with the your gun toting about in the game.

Its all about human behaviour... It's origins, its evolution, and its reflections...

[pyro-manic]

Hardly surprising. Americans are kept so ****-scared of everyone through the media that they think everyone's out to get them. Which means that A: the government can do whatever they want if they say it's "to protect American Freedoms(TM)! Yeah! U-S-A! U-S-A! Woooo!!" which whips people up into another frenzy, and B: they can keep handing out fat contracts to contractors to build even more horrible and dangerous weapons (see the new micro-nukes for a good example).

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Grug
hehe, eleven.

How about creating art, games, and music which promotes such things.

Its all todo with human behaviour.
Take the sixties for example. All the hippies etc, promoting love and peace at music conserts etc.
Take todays, and music is about pain, suffering, etc.
 

Some  music isn't.

[Grug]

I have to say I put my mouseover the link, and seeing it in my status bar as "www.cosmicroughriders.com" I didn't even bother.

America is a nation of fear. But they've always been arrogant and pridefull as well which is the dangerous mix.

But I guess everyone finds flaws in their governments.
That's why I like my paranoia idea. That the world is run by one group of individuals albeit powerfull men, aliens or worse woman. ()