[Clave]

I *kind of* like the French, they stick up for themselves, and are more friendly in private than public I think.  True, they are arrogant, but so are a lot of of other nations, and they have a certain style along with it.

For: Art, food, countryside, culture, history, architecture, style, women.

Against: Snobbery, Napoleon, useless tactics in most wars, garlic, hyperactive kids.

[Gank]

Hmm, why would americans not be liked in france?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Clave
I *kind of* like the French, they stick up for themselves, and are more friendly in private than public I think.  True, they are arrogant, but so are a lot of of other nations, and they have a certain style along with it.

For: Art, food, countryside, culture, history, architecture, style, women.

Against: Snobbery, Napoleon, useless tactics in most wars, garlic, hyperactive kids.

Put it this way, all the French people on this forum seem decent.

[mitac]

Originally posted by Gank
Hmm, why would americans not be liked in france?

That's irony, is it?

[Deepblue]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Put it this way, all the French people on this forum seem decent.

That would be? (Nico is a rare case and he doesn't even come here anymore.)

[Mongoose]

If you're visiting a country, you shouldn't be expected to learn the language, but in turn, you shouldn't expect people to speak your language.  You'll either have to find someone who does or try to get by as best you can with a travel language guide.  If you're going to live in another country, however, you should learn the language.  No ifs, ands, or buts.  I'm sick and tired of the groups who want to make America into a bilingual nation.  Our ancestors came to this country and learned the language, or at least made sure their children did; why should Mexican immigrants be treated any differently?  America speaks English; France speaks French; Japan speaks Japanese.  If you plan on living there, either learn the local language or leave.  It's that simple.

[.::Tin Can::.]

Well put Mongoose.

[Genryu]

As I'm sure I said before : nearly no one of age more than thirty in France is able to speak English, and even in the younger generation, many are able to at least understand it, but actually speaking the language is another thing altogether. And trying to get good service in either Paris or Marseille is a lesson in futility. BTW, if you want to get service AND english-speaking people, I recommand borderline city. Evian, the city where the spring of the same name come from (worked for this company for a whole 2 months ), situated just in front of Geneva on the other side of the Leman lake, is a city where nearly every shop has people able to understand English.
And it's true that, due to our 'relations' with both England and America, people speaking those language tends to reap distrust
Speak Spanish, German, Japanese,whatever you want, I'm sure you'll get more help this way, even if the French in front of you doesn't understand the language

[.::Tin Can::.]

Well my general point was that its not that they couldnt find someone to speak English. They were told at the door that the waiters would serve them in English.

[Grey Wolf]

I probably wouldn't do that well in France.  I've forgotten most of my high school French, and it had a fairly large Canadian influence.

Speaking of Canada, don't you know that all intelligent Americans are supposed to claim their Canadian when overseas?

[Ace]

Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Well my general point was that its not that they couldnt find someone to speak English. They were told at the door that the waiters would serve them in English.

What they didn't realize is that literally they where going to be served. In English dressing. (sort of like Russian dressing only with more pickels)

They (the waiters) started getting grumpy when their meal was acting all uppdity. ...and you know, you would too if you invited well-aged and fattened food over from across the world to have for dinner and it had an attitude.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Speaking of Canada, don't you know that all intelligent Americans are supposed to claim their Canadian when overseas?

KT is going to France next Summer. KT Wonders if he will get the same treatment.

[vyper]

English is the international language. Shamone french muthas.

[Jetmech Jr.]

I agree with Tin Can. If someone is having a little trouble with speaking the local language, and you KNOW how to speak THEIR language, you could at least be gentlemanly about it. Who acts like an ass to people for not learning an entirely new language before taking a vacation?

Oh, thats right. The French, apparently.

[.::Tin Can::.]

[Fineus]

Come on guys, enough French bashing. I'm sure people have come to England or America or any other country and had a totally crap time with the locals as well.

[Jetmech Jr.]

It seems like it's always happening whenever somebody goes to France, though.

I don't hate all French. Just the arrogant pricks that TC mentioned.

[Grey Wolf]

You know one thing I never really got? Seeing hordes of Japanese tourists in places you wouldn't expect to see them.

[Fineus]

As do I of course, but I could post a thread about every time someone doesn't look where they're going and walks into me or pushes a pram infront of me as I walk down the street.

It happens a lot - but it shouldn't be discussed here. By all means discuss the cultures, trips you've been on to countries yourself or whatever. But lets try to keep the place free of "The French suck" or whatever.

[Grey Wolf]

What I was saying is sometimes the Japanese tour groups do some fairly odd things. For example, I saw a fairly massive group (~100 or so) going to walk on a trail in the gorge, with many of the woman wearing high heels.  The trail was well built, but doing something like that is just asking for a broken neck....