[Zarax]

Yes, there are a couple of treaties made in the cold war, but at the same time there isn't another superpower capable of enforcing the respect of them....

[Clave]

My giant laser array will enforce the treaty....  if it indeed exists, which it does not....

[pyro-manic]

Hmmph. "Respect" isn't a word that Americans understand. Or if they do, they don't seem to care. We need to dangle a couple of Tridents under their noses and say "listen, pal - enough of your bull****. Stop ****ing about." If Blair gets kicked out next year, it might start to happen, but until then, there's no chance....

[NGTM-1R]

Show me something worthy of respect, and I'll respect it. This whole article is speculation. I don't see a shred of evidence anywhere. For all the hard evidence you can provide, this could be about Global Hawk UAVs or the regular KH-series satellites.

As for your Tritons, guess who made them. Yeah. Us. And we've got a lot more of them then you do. More to the point, nobody in their right mind waves nuclear weapons about threateningly, because there is no better way to turn world opinion against you rapidly.

[Night Hammer]

yeah, nukes seem to be taboo these days, just wait iran will set one off somewhere and the world will be over

[Rictor]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
More to the point, nobody in their right mind waves nuclear weapons about threateningly, because there is no better way to turn world opinion against you rapidly.

Sort of like low-yield bunker buster nukes?

[Corsair]

Yeah, like that. "useable" nukes?

[Grey Wolf]

There's a fairly good chance the US and Russia may be entering another arms race at this point, as shown by the anti-missile platform vs. solid state rocket debacle...

[Rictor]

Wouldn't that be the US and China? Even under Commisar Putin, aren't the Russians still having money problems?

[Grey Wolf]

It's Comrade Putin, plutocratic capitilist pig. And why would you need money if you are the great and powerful representative of the working class?

On a more serious note, they're upgrading their nuclear cache. Possibly through the money they're getting from selling arms to China.

[Zarax]

Russian nuclear arsenal is mostly pointed to china, which represent a bigger threat for them...
I think putin is subrler than thinking to start a second cold war...
That will most likely be between US and china, with Putin making his gains from a neutral position...

[pyro-manic]

Originally posted by ngtm1r
As for your Tritons, guess who made them. Yeah. Us. And we've got a lot more of them then you do.

I'm scared. Really, I am.

Originally posted by ngtm1r
More to the point, nobody in their right mind waves nuclear weapons about threateningly, because there is no better way to turn world opinion against you rapidly.

Mmmmm, smell the irony....

As for a Chinese -  US cold war, it won't happen. Their economies are far too closely linked. Anyway, the days of inter-state rivalry are pretty much over. You don't get proper wars any more....

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Zarax
Russian nuclear arsenal is mostly pointed to china, which represent a bigger threat for them...
I think putin is subrler than thinking to start a second cold war...
That will most likely be between US and china, with Putin making his gains from a neutral position...

I think the main worry for the Russians would be if the Chinese decided they needed a wee bit more living space to their north.....

[Gloriano]

ussian nuclear arsenal is mostly pointed to china, which represent a bigger threat for them...

I'am not sure that's case anymore

[kode]

Originally posted by Holy Imperial Gloriano


I'am not sure that's case anymore

good thing we have a political scientist among us. I don't suppose you'd be so kind as to share your findings with us?

[Grey Wolf]

There is the fact that Russias has been selling arms to China, which may imply a warming of relations.

[Flipside]

Back on topic.....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=1&u=/nm/20041214/ts_nm/security_intelligence_dc

Update.... looks like an awful lot of bees a-buzzing over that comment, which implies truth.


Edit : Throwing money and resources at something that isn't working is a danger to National Security.....

: looks at Iraq :

Ok, Mr Senator, now one plus one is......

[Rictor]

Originally posted by kode


good thing we have a political scientist among us. I don't suppose you'd be so kind as to share your findings with us?

Uhm, the circle is closing ina round Russia, and China has nothing to do with it. The US is peeling off the layers. Georgia, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Serbia. Romania also has a mini-Ukraine thing going on right now. And every country falls to Western influence conveniently has US military bases put in.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Serbia/Georgia/Uklraine template was tried in Russia itself within the next few years.

[Rictor]

You're the one who leaked the info, arent't you!? Aren't you!?
I'll kill you, you stinking traitor, strangle you good and dead!

[Shrike]

Originally posted by pyro-manic
As for a Chinese -  US cold war, it won't happen. Their economies are far too closely linked. Anyway, the days of inter-state rivalry are pretty much over. You don't get proper wars any more....

Guess who Germany's largest trading partners in 1914, 1939 and 1941 were.

Answer:  France, France and Russia, respectively.

Don't bet on trade keeping two nations at peace.