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Offline Andreas

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Hallfight observations
Couple of questions and observations from the Hallfight cutscene in FS1.

First of all, doesn't the music that plays when the marines enter the freighter sound exactly like the music from Fallout (like in caves and somesuch). And what sort of weaponry are they using? I would expect to see plasma guns or something like that, but they appear to be using just some advanced assault rifles, with bullets?
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they are probably using some sort of mass-driver type gun(bullets propelled by magnetic fields).

 

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probaby so but that gun that they carry with two hands shouldnt it be something extra powerful? i mean it took down a shivan
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Well there is another thread about this where someone suggested that the guns may have been toned down to avoid any damage to the freighter. The thread is here, if you want to have a look.

 

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The guns that they're holding actually look like some of the guns out of the ship techroom. ML-16s, or something.

 

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oh my god YES! now i remember! i read somewhere(i believe its the now dead VWBB) that that big gun was standard issue to heavy tac squads...
whats the firepower of those lasers?
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they are probably using some sort of mass-driver type gun(bullets propelled by magnetic fields).


anyone who has actually built a gauss projectile launcher knows that they are hellishly inneffietient, heavy, and quite bulky. they are probibly using some advanced caseless ammo. caseless ammo is the way to go, you dont have to deal with the trouble of ejecting brass. so you can have your fire rate up in the 1000 rpm range (more than adequit in an assault rifle) caseless ronds would probibly use some advanced solid propelant that takes up less space than smokless powder and is oxydised for use in zero atmosphere environments. ammo would probibly be supplied from an helical clip that can hold about 50-100 rounds (depending on calibur). speaking of calibur, in space it would probibly be better to use a larger one, seeing as there is no drag to slow your muzzel velocity. it an atmosphere smaller rounds tend to do more damage cause they cut through the air better and thus have a better muzzel velocity.

lets see you use your gauss rifle in an emp storm :D

*edit* damn them uniforms look like something out of red faction :D
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The middle picture looks a bit like an ML-16.  But the bottom one looks a lot like the Prometheus.

 

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The middle picture looks a bit like an ML-16.  But the bottom one looks a lot like the Prometheus.


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The 2nd piccy - the marine render - the gun has a vastly different barrel to the ML-16 though.  The gun itself is a fair bit different to the cutscene one, too; wonder why.........


 

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It can't be an ML-16! A single shot of it can take down a Shivan! At least I guess so.
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Depends how much of the firepower of the ML-16 is affected by its power source; maybe you can simply get more damage with more juice (i.e. off a fighters reactor rather than someportable batterypack or fusion cell)

 

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The only reason that last one looks like a Prometheus is because it has green trim.

Judging from the cable on it, I'd say it looks like a Kayser.

 

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The second pic looks a lot like the ML-16... just flip the weapon back-to-front. ;)

The third pic is the Prometheus, but with an extra tube on the top.

I'm pretty sure they'd re-use their existing weapon models for their cutscenes.

 

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Too early for a Kayser.

 

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In all probablility, it's probably just a modified primary weapon from the tech animations. After all, V had these cool looking guns they made for the animatiosn, why not use them elswhere?

 

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anyone who has actually built a gauss projectile launcher knows that they are hellishly inneffietient, heavy, and quite bulky. they are probibly using some advanced caseless ammo. caseless ammo is the way to go, you dont have to deal with the trouble of ejecting brass. so you can have your fire rate up in the 1000 rpm range (more than adequit in an assault rifle) caseless ronds would probibly use some advanced solid propelant that takes up less space than smokless powder and is oxydised for use in zero atmosphere environments. ammo would probibly be supplied from an helical clip that can hold about 50-100 rounds (depending on calibur). speaking of calibur, in space it would probibly be better to use a larger one, seeing as there is no drag to slow your muzzel velocity. it an atmosphere smaller rounds tend to do more damage cause they cut through the air better and thus have a better muzzel velocity.

lets see you use your gauss rifle in an emp storm :D

*edit* damn them uniforms look like something out of red faction :D


Except for two problems: One, have you listened to the noise those guns make? They don't sound like chemical-reaction propellent guns. They hum. Two, consider the size of the bore. They're firing 80mm or greater rounds. I'm sorry, there is not room for more the five or six of those there, and they fire sustained fully automatic bursts lasting several seconds.
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i didnt say those were the guns they used, im saying they were the guns they should have used :D
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I highly doubt theyre using starship lasers, those things are probably HUGE.
actualy, mabye not.
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