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Offline an0n

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About Scientific Theory
For the stupid amongst you - namely the religious fanatics - I thought I'd make a thread about scientific theories and why you can't just sit and blindly ignore all facts and observable evidence on the basis that scientists call the study of such things a 'theory'.

Firstly, let's take a look at the dictionary definition of the word:

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the·o·ry    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (th-r, thîr)
n. pl. the·o·ries

A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

See that? Repeatedly tested. Widely accepted. Can be used to make predictions about things.

Now let's take a look at the definition of the word 'right':

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true    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (tr)
adj. tru·er, tru·est

Consistent with fact or reality; not false or erroneous.
Truthful.
Real; genuine.
Reliable; accurate.

Reliable. Accurate. Consistent with reality.

See how the two words are virtually synonymous?

And finally, let's take a look at Semiconductor Theory and The Theory of Electromagnetic Induction - without which, you wouldn't even be reading this.

Scientific Theory != Guess
Scientific Theory = Observable Fact

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Offline Grey Wolf

Well written, but there seems to be something up with your last link...
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Offline Carl

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An0n, i can observe things to be true even if they are not.

Repeatedly tested. Widely accepted. Can be used to make predictions about things

that describes the geocentric universe 3000 year ago.
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Not really.

Unless you believe in horroscopes, in which case you're beyond help.
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Evolution iz teh l337!
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Offline IceFire

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For me...the key thing to science and the reason it was so revolutionary at the time was that evaluation of currently accepted theories are constant.  Which is why things like Einstines Theory of Relativity and such are always being re-evaluated.  New theories have spawned to explain things that his theory doesn't explain and new theories may one day supplant Einstines work...but that doesn't make it more or less and thats fairly consistent with all of science.

So its an important system...

But, its not everything.  Religion has its niche.  Its when the two cross paths that we have trouble...in some cases.  Not with all...

And thats the way things will be...
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Offline pyro-manic

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Religious fanaticism != stupidity
Religious fanaticism = fear/stubbornness/ignorance/lack of access to facts through upbringing and/or societal system.

Don't just bash religion for the hell of it, anon - it shows you up as being more like the fanatics than like the rest of us...
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You just love to start ****, don't you?

 

Offline PeachE

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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Religious fanaticism != stupidity
Religious fanaticism = fear/stubbornness/ignorance/lack of access to facts through upbringing and/or societal system...


and in all fairness, stupidity SHOULD be on that list as well. all the facts in the world won't help someone who's dense as a ****ing brick.

 

Offline pyro-manic

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But then neither will religion. You can be a religious fanatic and stupid, but you can be a religious fanatic and razor-sharp as well. You won't be a religious fanatic because you're stupid. You can be a big-bang believer and still be thick as ****. One doesn't lead to another.
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Offline PeachE

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i think you're putting the emphasis on the wrong word. you're right, one isn't religious because they're stupid. but an argument could be made that one of the contributors to fanaticism is stupidity.

 
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Originally posted by pyro-manic
Religious fanaticism != stupidity
Religious fanaticism = fear/stubbornness/ignorance/lack of access to facts through upbringing and/or societal system.

Don't just bash religion for the hell of it, anon - it shows you up as being more like the fanatics than like the rest of us...


Couldn't keep your hands out of your pants, huh?

 

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That is the perfect setup for a slam-dunk "your mom" zing.
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Offline Taristin

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It also shows the intellectual level of the arguer. :doubt:

I'm sick of reading these arguments between a 19 yr old and a 15 yr old...
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Which one is 19, because I got a good idea who the 15 year old is...

 

Offline Taristin

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Who have you been arguing with in the last three threads?
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Offline Ford Prefect

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Is this going to be on the test?
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Offline Taristin

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No, the test will consist of 1 yes or no question:

Does what I believe in matter in any way shape or form to anyone else other than me?
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Offline Ford Prefect

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OH! OH! FORTY-TWO!
"Mais est-ce qu'il ne vient jamais à l'idée de ces gens-là que je peux être 'artificiel' par nature?"  --Maurice Ravel