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Offline Kie99

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What would happen if the entire GTVA fleet in Their Finest Hour was sent back to Ross 128 while the Lucifer was attacking the Riviera Station fully repaired.  Lets assume they do't just slaughter the Lucifer as soon as they see it.
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I'm preety sure the shivans would be fvcked
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline JR2000Z

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The Lucifer would whipe them out of course.
I finally destoryed the Shivan armada and all I got was this lousy T shirt.

 

Offline Kie99

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But what would happen after the Lucifer was destroyed.  Like with the Sathanas Fleet just a few systems away
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Offline Kie99

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How would the Lucifer wipe them out, the Fleet would talk to the GTA and Persuade them Shivans existed.
When it tells the GTA the history of their conflict with the PVN the GTA will have to believe them, especially when they see the advanced Tech.
The Fleet would wait until Lucy went into subspace then follow it and unleash a storm of BFGreens and BVas's etc.  upon it.  And possibly a few Helios missiles.
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Offline NGTM-1R

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They don't even need to deal with the subspace part. Beams will go straight through the shielding, and the Colossus, two cruisers, and a corvette will make short work of the FS1 Lucifer, so...

The NTF would never have exsisted, as Aken Bosch would never have had the experiences he did with Shivan technology during the Hades rebellion. The Hades might have been completed, and the coup might have been launched...only to have the Hades hunted down by the Colossus and other beam-armed ships, which would have blown GTVI's superdestroyer to metallic confetti.

It might not even have gotten that far: the fleet would have known of the GTI rebellion, and would likely have moved to stop it before it could start...and perhaps profit from it by having the forces available to storm the Jotenheim installation, seize the GTI labs, and then find and storm the site where the Hades was being built before the superdestroyer was anywhere near functional. What GTI knew of the Shivans they would not have been able to take to their graves this time around.

The Second Shivan Invasion would never occur. The GTVA would have formed much earlier: there's nothing in the arsenal of the GTA or PVN at that time that could've stopped the Colossus and its fighters. The fleet could simply dictate the formation of the GTVA to the GTA and PVE.

The PVE might remain, or it might become the Imperium. It's unclear how much of the momentum behind the change of government for Vasuda was the result of the Terran-Vasudan War and how much was the result of the devestation of the Great War. That can't be accurately predicted.

The GTA would probably have gone into the GTVA as a whole, and post-Great War skirimishes between members would not have occurred...or would have been promptly squashed by the Colossus.
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« Last Edit: December 31, 2004, 08:20:49 pm by 2316 »
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Offline Kie99

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That's cos You're a Troll.

Beams will go straight through the shielding

Not Necessarily, other weapons were supposed to completely destroy shields but had zero effect on the Lucifer
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i read this
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But what would happen after the Lucifer was destroyed. Like with the Sathanas Fleet just a few systems away
and said i dont understand... the second part anyway...
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Offline NGTM-1R

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That's cos You're a Troll.

Beams will go straight through the shielding

Not Necessarily, other weapons were supposed to completely destroy shields but had zero effect on the Lucifer


Beams bypass all forms of shielding. That's canon, is it not?
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Offline Kie99

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THe GT(V?)A would have to decide what to do about the Sath Fleet.
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Offline pyro-manic

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Originally posted by kietotheworld
What would happen if the entire GTVA fleet in Their Finest Hour was sent back to Ross 128 while the Lucifer was attacking the Riviera Station fully repaired.  Lets assume they do't just slaughter the Lucifer as soon as they see it.


Um, this makes no sense to me at all. Are you talking about time travel or something? :wtf: There is no timetravel in the FS universe....
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Offline Grimloq

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yeah.. thats what i want to know. tiem travel is NOT canon.
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Beams bypass all forms of shielding. That's canon, is it not?

There's a little flag in the launcher called "-nobeampierce".
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I don't think it would be safe for the GTVA to mess around with time, It could lead to some troubles.

 

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That would when you play the "it's an alternate universe" card.
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Offline Lightspeed

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The terrans would be wiped out miserably.
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Offline Kie99

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Sorry, I didn't mean the GTVA does it on purpose, I meant that something happened when the Sath jumps in so that all ships in the general area apart from the Sath are sent back in time.
I realise it's not Canon but the title of the thread is: What If?
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Offline pyro-manic

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Yah, but how or why would it happen in the first place? That's a more important question, I feel. Chances are the Lucifer would rape the TV ships anyway. Impregnable shields give you a bit of an advantage...

There's no mention of any sort of temporal anomalies or disturbances anywhere to do with subspace
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Unless you include Sync, and that had nothing really to do with the Shivans
, so it'd be kind of weird if it suddenly happened out of the blue.

You could always write a mini-campaign about it...
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