[stithe2000]

that was the slide factor I mentioned

[Deepblue]

Under velocity in the table it usually goes something like (0,0,99) the first two 0's are the X and Y axis speeds. If you want sliding put a number in the first two slots and assign keys in FSO. I did this for TBP and it was kinda fun. However, nothing beats true newtonian physics.

[Nuke]

you should be able to fake newtonian physics in game if:
-you set the max speed to the speed of light
-you use muh higher damp factors
-set deceleration to a very high value (to simulate the absence of inertial dampners)
-use acceleration values to indicate engine power

you see its the speed cap that keeps the physics non-newtonian. the only speed cap in reality is the speed of light. you are essentially limited by the amount of fuel you have and the power of your engine. sence freespace doesnt track fuel consumption, you would be able to make the speed of light eventually, but youd leave the mission area or get bored before that happens.

[Omniscaper]

The fuel thing bugs me. Perhaps sexp that disbales the engines after a set time, resetted by support ship.

[IceFire]

Originally posted by Omniscaper
The fuel thing bugs me. Perhaps sexp that disbales the engines after a set time, resetted by support ship.

What fuel thing?  The afterburners?  You can just give them a afterburner replenish rate of 0 and then a bit more fuel for duration and then the afterburners never come back after you run out.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Nuke
you should be able to fake newtonian physics in game if:
-you set the max speed to the speed of light
-you use muh higher damp factors
-set deceleration to a very high value (to simulate the absence of inertial dampners)
-use acceleration values to indicate engine power

you see its the speed cap that keeps the physics non-newtonian. the only speed cap in reality is the speed of light. you are essentially limited by the amount of fuel you have and the power of your engine. sence freespace doesnt track fuel consumption, you would be able to make the speed of light eventually, but youd leave the mission area or get bored before that happens.

Isn't the ship's inertia still relative to the ship itself?

[Nuke]

i didnt say it would be newtonian i just said you can fake it and get something very similar. as i understand it all speeds are relative anyway. without a fast deceleration you could probibly turn the ship and with a lhigh damp factor you will continue to fly backwards. but its not full neutonian. id need to play with it to know for sure.

a full newtonian option would need to come with a fuel tracking for rcs and propultion and object gravity, just for complete realisim and stuff

[Nuke]

yea you are right, i had pput my theory into practice and not only did it make my ship a ***** to fly. but the physics werent as realistic as i had wanted. none the less high speed, high damp ships are quite intresting to fly, especially in a dogfight

[IceFire]

I'd warn you guys a bit.  Newtonian sounds kinda nifty but go and play B5: IFH for a few minutes and you'll get downright bored stiff.

Even realistic combat sims like Lock On Modern Air Combat and IL-2:Forgotten Battles were much more fun than that.

Keep the arcade physics but add the side step controls for an added BSG feel to things.  Make the combat fast, fun, interesting.

I'd suggest that you go for something close to what they do on the show.  Rapid fire, slight dispersion of the shots (very slight), unsyncronized firing, make the damage substantial but not one shot one kill.  I also learned something from doing TBP's tables.... as fast as they do it in the CGI, slow it down a notch.  Keep it game paced.

[deep_eyes]

ID SAY ALSO add that fisheye thingie perspective, it would give a nice effect to the camera jerkyness that we see in the show.

[Nuke]

id perfer a stabilized newtonian mode, where the speed caps and the rotational canceling still in place. and have inertia tracked relative to space rather than relative to object. also add control for breaking thrust instead of being automatic (perhaps making the lesser 10% of the throttle control reverse/breaking thrust). if you cut your engine id like to contiune directional inertia, so you can pull some of those bsg snapturn manuvers. the ship's stabilizer (if enabled) will try to straighten out your flight path based on your lateral thrust values. it would be a nice balence between realisim and gameplay, and would improve the gameplay as it would make of cool manuvers possible.

[Deepblue]

B5: IFH is fun as hell with newtonian, even with inertial damp off, you just have to time things right so you don't over swing your target.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by IceFire
I'd warn you guys a bit.  Newtonian sounds kinda nifty but go and play B5: IFH for a few minutes and you'll get downright bored stiff.

That says more about B5:IFH than newtonian physics. I got a bit bored with IFH yet I enjoyed fighting in I-War II and I've yet to meet as big a fan of Warhead as myself.

[Raptor]

Hmph. One week, two pages, and not a single comment for my Viper.

I know this thread is about the 'reimaged' BSG, but still...

If I'd known that I'd get this responce, I'd wouldn't have bothered...

[karajorma]

Missed it completely Raptor. It's pretty cool actually (as is the majority of your stuff). Love the cockpit

[Turambar]

we need to have little tiny puffs of gas for viper turning, for the little rockets firing off

[Deepblue]

You mean like starshatter? Oh.

[stithe2000]

That is not only addition pof thuster glow point work, but a SCP issue with addition engine entries.... Dont believe anything like that is out yet... Besides... In the heat of battle probably not really going to notice such small details...

[Omniscaper]

If small details won't be noticed in the heat of combat, I guess I can delete this subobject for the viper.







Now all i need is a pilot mesh.

[KARMA]

holy ****, that's awesome ('cept the trigger:p)