[vyper]

https://freeinternetpress.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2815

[q]Sharifa Daadekhoda’s two-year-old daughter, Krishma, has never seen the outside world. She was born in prison and she’ll be at least three when she is released. Her mother’s crime? Running away from home.
Sharifa was 12 years old when she was forced to marry a 30-year-old man. He immediately began prostituting her, but Sharifa was too ashamed to tell her family and he would beat her if she complained.

A year later she fled and was caught again, receiving a longer sentence – only this time her captors had been installed by the American-led coalition. In President Hamid Karzai’s Afghanistan, women are still imprisoned for running away from home.[/q]

Mission successful George.

[Nuclear1]

Shutup. You know that I'm already quite sick of your Bush-bashing threads, right?

Al Qaeda's done with. Sure, there are still some problems in Afghanistan, but we have this kind of **** happening in the US too. You really can't expect a country that's lived under tyranny for God-knows-how-long to instantly shape up after liberation, can you?

Afghanistan's going to need work. Next time you pin this, or anything like it directly on Bush...

[pyro-manic]

Hardly surprising....

[vyper]

Originally posted by nuclear1
Shutup. You know that I'm already quite sick of your Bush-bashing threads, right?

Al Qaeda's done with. Sure, there are still some problems in Afghanistan, but we have this kind of **** happening in the US too. You really can't expect a country that's lived under tyranny for God-knows-how-long to instantly shape up after liberation, can you?

Afghanistan's going to need work. Next time you pin this, or anything like it directly on Bush...

Were you born an asshole or have you become one thanks to the culture you were raised in?

As for my "bush bashing" please give me examples of the other threads I've started with such venom.

Bush is your CIC - the buck stops with him. My main point is that the government you installed is no better than the Taliban.

[Grey Wolf]

What, someone honestly expected that changing the government would change deeply ingrained cultural flaws?

[Ford Prefect]

omfg vyper stfu ur such a h8er!!!1111one11one

[Rictor]

See Grey Wolf (and nuclear1), its not "the culture" that makes laws and imprisons people, its the government. If this were simple a case of domestic abuse, you could make the arguement for culture, but the great friend of freedom, Hamid Karzai, locked her up in prison, not the culture. It was her family that made her suffer the abuse, but the government that locked her up for trying to run away from it.

Tyranical puppet governments installed = tyranical puppet governments installed + 1

[Grey Wolf]

I'd consider the fact that her husband was whoring her out to be a fairly good indication that the country has severe problems routing from culture.

[Sesquipedalian]

Originally posted by nuclear1
Sure, there are still some problems in Afghanistan, but we have this kind of **** happening in the US too.

Girls get locked up for leaving their pimping husbands in the US?  I'm going to guess you meant to say somthing else...

[Rictor]

You're missing the point. Yes, that is most certainly a problem, but not one for which you can hold acountable the government (or at least not completely). However, there is also the small matter of her being imprisoned. The rights of women was one of the big things Bush was touting when he invaded Afghanistan. So, to the sane man, it would stand to reason that such oppressive Taliban era laws would be overturned by the new government.

Evidently, they have not been.

edit: just to clarify nuclear, al Queda was never in power. They had a few training camps, but thats more or less it. You're reffering to the Taliban government, which believe it or not is a seperate entity. I know they all look alike to you, but try to keep it mind...

[Janos]

Originally posted by Rictor
You're missing the point. Yes, that is most certainly a problem, but not one for which you can hold acountable the government (or at least not completely). However, there is also the small matter of her being imprisoned. The rights of women was one of the big things Bush was touting when he invaded Afghanistan. So, to the sane man, it would stand to reason that such oppressive Taliban era laws would be overturned by the new government.

Evidently, they have not been.

edit: just to clarify nuclear, al Queda was never in power. They had a few training camps, but thats more or less it. You're reffering to the Taliban government, which believe it or not is a seperate entity. I know they all look alike to you, but try to keep it mind...

I supported the invasion of Afghanistan because I hated the Talibans.
Also, I wasn't entirely opposed to Iraq II because I wanted to get rid of Saddam and let Kurds have what is rightfully theirs. MISHUN CREEP

I'm in shame now.

[Grey Wolf]

I never really liked the Taliban, that going back to about 2000 or so when they destroyed the giant Buddhas. Just not a good thing to do. Before that, I had never heard of them.