[vyper]

Originally posted by Flipside
hehehehe I think the general idea was to give the opposite impression

The uniform colours were sort of a carry-over from TOS, which filmed in the time of phsychadelia and tastelessness.

I think they'd have done better with a darker uniform with just a single band of colour to denote their job

When you're in Space, you shouldn't clash lovey

So basically the First-Contact/Enterprise style outfits?

[Nuke]

even the fc and later ds9 uniforms looked gay. i liked the dress uniforms used in insurection they actually had a navy look to them. trek changes the uniforms too much. most military uniforms have changed little in the last century. but it is a tv show/movie and gay people need jobs too. iirc an episode of crusade made fun of this phenomenon. replacing the awesome ea uniforms with those really gay trekish ones (another reason crusade failed).

[Grey Wolf]

We could go for alternate universe. It's worked for the Gundam series for all these years, so go and set a show in roughly Enterprise B era, keep the general framework, and then have fun with it. That way, we also get to use the cool Wrath of Kahn-era uniforms...

[vyper]

Starfleet rocked during that period - so much more agressive and they still even had real beer.

erm...

[Grey Wolf]

That is true. Synthehol was one of the ****tier ideas from Next Generation. Scotty had it right when he refused to drink it in Relics...

Scott: Laddie, I was drinking scotch a hundred years before you were born. And I can tell you that whatever this is, it is definately not scotch.

[Flipside]

You know, one thing has concerned me about that period in the Federations existence....

How many blobby/gaseous/spongey lifeforms did they make extinct? I mean, they encounter all sorts of wierd space-faring life-forms, kill them, and then you never see those life-forms again in any series. Worf even said that Tribbles were extinct. Even guys like the Harga and the Medusans vanish...

[vyper]

You don't think all that Federation indoctrination is for nothing do you?

[Ace]

Originally posted by Tiara

I might not like Voyager, but the guy who played Tuvok played a perfect Vulcan role IMHO. He wasn't meant to emulate Spock because Spock wasn't a real Vulcan, Tuvok was. Comparing the two is just stupid.

He did a little too good of a job as a Vulcan since Tuvok had zero personality or real interest as a character. He was too together except for the episodes where they had him go crazy, alienated, etc.

Personally with Enterprise I would have had T'Pol act more like Tuvok, being the one together person while all of the rest of the Vulcans acted... un-Vulcan like up until an event in the show like the episode this season.

[Flipside]

Well, I think the image of the Vulcans portrayed in Enterprise is of a race that hasn't quite perfected the whole non-emotion thing yet. I think that's deliberate to try and show how they have matured with the Federation.

[Ace]

Before I forget, an MSNBC poll:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6902611

Every little thing helps. Even if you hate Enterprise, supporting it I think would be a good thing as it means there's some variety of scifi shows and fewer 'reality' TV shows on

[Flipside]

Y'know, they missed an amazing chance with Enterprise, they should have called the young inexperienced Vulcan T'Pau, that would have created a nice tie-in

[Liberator]

They we going to, but at least they did eventually get her in.

[vyper]

Has anyone seen 4x13 yet? I can't find it anywhere (and no, don't even think about posting where you may or may not have got it )

[mitac]

Uhm, it's not even been broadcasted as of yet, has it?

[vyper]

I thought it was supposed to air on the 4th?

[mitac]

Indeed. 4th of February, 8 PM pacific time. That's another four hours for me, if I don't mix that up.

[vyper]

Ah, it aired earlier last week - appeared.... in places, about 6pm GMT. Oh well.

[TrashMan]

TNG - rocks!

TOS - hillarious (and to think those episodes were ment ot be serious...what acting....what props...what story!)

DS9 - good battles, crappy show. Bad charachters, plot holes the size of a galaxy

VOY - black hole of Trek

ENT - potetntial that has been massacred.


they should make a new universe.. it's not that hard for christs sake!

Meh..if it were up to me I would use far more science and farless fiction.. todays shows with all those universla translators, energy beings and body stealing, time travel and uber-beings really piss me off...

[Tiara]

DS9 - good battles, crappy show. Bad charachters, plot holes the size of a galaxy

Well, I guess it's a matter of taste wether you like the show or not, but saying that the characters were bad is simply untrue.

Sisko - While not the best character in Trek, he is more realistic then about 99% of all other characters. He shows actual Human traits like anger, grief, love and much more. he is without a doubt one of the most realistic Humans () on the show.

Worf - well, whats to say. He and Martok are the only klingons i like

Garak - Simply *THE BEST* character ever to appear in any trek show ever.

Quark - The first decently played Ferengi.

Odo - Well, whats to say. his character development was pretty much very good. Not to mention his personal story arc.

Dax - Pretty well portrait character if you ask me. The whole 7 lifetimes was well done. though she was still one of the least liked characters IMHO.

Weyoun - C'mon! The guy did a perfect job here. All kinds of different Weyouns and perfectly played with slight differences in character.

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Also, plot holes? What plot holes?

[Nuke]

garak is just as intresting in person, met him at my 3rd trek convention. i got his autograph somewhere. i cant remember any of the actors names anymore.