[Rictor]

I seem to remember reading that there were/are reports of the Kurds fleeing into Iraq, away from Iran, which would be consistant with an attack by the Iranians. Even if its not 100% to either side of the story, there is still enough evidence for reasonable doubt.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Rictor
And actually, I was the one who mentioned the Double Jeopardy thing, mostly on account of my entire knowledge of those laws consisiting of watching the movie Double Jeopardy a few years ago (or rather, catching a few glimpses over my shoulder between respawns).

I never saw the movie but IIRC the premise was that she was tried and convicted of the murder (not attempted murder) of her husband who turned out to be faking it.

Even in that case I think she'd still have ended up on trial for the second attempt. Even of DJ meant she couldn't be convicted of his murder the second time round (which is doubtful) it would be easy to send her down for a lesser crime. You could easily put her on trial for assault, GBH, carrying with intent etc.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by karajorma


I never saw the movie but IIRC the premise was that she was tried and convicted of the murder (not attempted murder) of her husband who turned out to be faking it.

Even in that case I think she'd still have ended up on trial for the second attempt. Even of DJ meant she couldn't be convicted of his murder the second time round (which is doubtful) it would be easy to send her down for a lesser crime. You could easily put her on trial for assault, GBH, carrying with intent etc.

See the imdb goofs;
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0150377/goofs

[q]Factual errors:

 Double jeopardy does not work in the way described in the film. The same jurisdiction can not put you on trial for the exact same crime under the exact same law, but other jurisdictions can if you also violate the law there during the commission of your crime. The killing of the husband, had it been murder, would have been a second crime committed in another jurisdiction (moreover, it would have been a second, distinct crime). She could have been put on trial and sent back to prison (though presumably the original sentence would have been cancelled).[/q]

[Swamp_Thing]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Swamp Thing, you thought that double jeapordy meant that if a man gets tried for murder he gets his second murder free. I think you should take a good, long mother****ing time researching government, history, law, and logic before you even think about doing political analysis.
 

You know, this is so hilarious that it´s actually sad. Maybe you have me confused with someone else, i don´t know. What i do know is that you chewed my head off for what i said, and then went yourself and said the same thing. How weird is that?
, had you bothered to read a little, you would find an amazing thing, and that is that i´m the biggest Bush basher here. But somehow you managed to read the exact opposite in my words...
And that, my friend, is friggin´ hillarious!
So, here´s a big WTF for you.

[Stryke 9]

No you didn't. The fact that through titanic volumes of ignorance you arrived at a vaguely similar conclusion to mine- that someday, Iran might be a target, and that Iraq will be involved somehow- is largely irrelevant. By that token, Emmerich is a brilliant prognosticator for showing in his movies, time and time again, bad things happening in New York- and look! Four years ago, something bad happened in New York! Wow, he's even better than you are, he got the explosions and the tower bits sorta right!

I realize it may be a bit of an ego hit to the immature minds here to realize that you are neither wise nor well-read on any issue, but to be perfectly frank your current political posts leave very little dignity for you to defend. At the very bloody least, start getting the Wilson Quarterly, or read the newspapers once a month. Once you've got to the level of a basic working knowledge of how your own and various other significant governments operate, we can work on having you speculate about what that means for present and future. Until then, I and the rest of America would really rather if you didn't vote or attend jury duty, as well. kthxbye!

[Fineus]

You guys done? Or shall I go ahead and start banning people?

[BlackDove]

How hard would it be to invade America now-a-days when its military resources are stretched all over the world?

[Gank]

Originally posted by aldo_14
http://countrystudies.us/iraq/104.htm

An un-named journalist eh?

Originally posted by aldo_14
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20041104.html

http://www.stanforddaily.com/tempo?page=content&id=4462&repository=0001_article]
Cant find anything at all about this penthouse article he was writing.

They're talking about the Basiji, an Iranian volunteer militia that did preform mass human wave attacks sometimes over minefields against the Iraqis. They were men in their early twenties/late teens not small children.

Originally posted by aldo_14
[q]US Army War College (USAWC) undertook a study of the use of chemical weapons by Iran and Iraq in order to better understand battlefield chemical warfare. They concluded that it was Iran and not Iraq that killed the Kurds.
[/q]

No idea if it's true or not.

Bear in mind the US was Iraqs allys at the time and Iran was public enemy no.2 in the US. The Kurds were allied with the Iranians during the war so its highly unlikely the Iranians gassed their allys. there was a battle near hallabjah at the time though where both sides used chemical weapons, although eyewitness's at the town say it was Iraqi Su25s that carried out the attack.