[Blaise Russel]

Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
the thing i don't understand is how any of these threads have any bearing on HLP.  I thought the motto was "bringing modders together"  lately it seems to be "bringing politards together to yell about everything political".

I draw issue with this point. It's based on some very shaky ground.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

yeah, it is tolerated, and we can discuss the influx of people recently, and when we stop and think about it, we can point to two reasons for most of them....TBP and INFERNO.  So while people are in here having a constant pissing contest two mods are carrying them.

how's this, people need to knock off the bull**** and go to work.

I disagree Blaise, because anymore all i ever see in this place is war about ****.  hell most times i don't even bother with Hard Light, and i try to encourage the new guys to stay out of here as well.  The thing is, i shouldn't have to.

If the admins won't step and say anything to curb this **** then i will.

[Flipside]

TBP has always and will always be the main gateway to FS2 these days though, Babylon 5 is a lot more well known than Freespace

I think the general idea of the Admins is to create one Forum where we can all be 'us' and then a bunch of Forums where we can all be modders.

I agree with you that the intent of the site is to bring Modders together, but sometimes that has the same result as bring a couple of kilos of plutonium together. We're artists, we are touchy.

If someone turned round in a Freespace Forum and said 'I'm not going to help you because you are/said xxxxxxx' then I would take severe issue with what is said in here

[Dark_4ce]

Yeah I agree, this thread has pritty much run its course. Its nothing more than a flame thread now. We should all calm down and just leave  this subject at that.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

flip you are right, and some of you guys i think can actually hold an intelligent debate without it becoming a warzone.  Funny thing is...you are the guys that i actually see Modding as well.  Others?  Hell they are just here to keep the place in as big an uproar as they possibly can, and it is obvious.

You should probably take issue with me.  No sarcasm at all in that statement.  I once stated in the Hosted Projects Support Forum that i no longer did any work on a certain mod because anon was on that staff, and to me he was an embarrassment.  I feel that strongly about certain things.

I look at guys like you, Blaise, Kara, Aldo, and i know you guys work as hard as i do.  I also know that you can have an intelligent debate.  Others?  well...do i really need to say it?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Flipside
TBP has always and will always be the main gateway to FS2 these days though, Babylon 5 is a lot more well known than Freespace

Which is why I think we need to make our own game with the FS engine..........

Not that enough people would help, of course.

[Flipside]

LOL Not at the moment, I'm busy with TI, but once the SCP has reached a stage of 'moderate finishedness', I have....plans.

As for the thing with An0n, well, since An0n is one of those people who loves to press other peoples buttons, and post flame threads just about everywhere, I can actually understand why you were wary of working with him

[Corsair]

Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
I look at guys like you, Blaise, Kara, Aldo, and i know you guys work as hard as i do.  I also know that you can have an intelligent debate.  Others?  well...do i really need to say it?

You know, some of us used to contribute to campaigns and such around here but can't now for whatever reason but still hang around because we like FS2. It's all part of keeping the community alive.

[Flipside]

Well, to be honest, I don't think it's people sitting around and liking FS2 that Shadow is annoyed at

[ShadowWolf_IH]

and the constant warring?

[ShadowWolf_IH]

that is correct.  i guess i should do some research into finding some political forums for some of these guys.

and for what it's worth, the one's listed are not the only ones here that i think can debate without anger....and i also said "Others"  not  "The Others"

[Corsair]

I understood you, no worries.

[StratComm]

Shadow, spot on.  I've all but stopped even looking in Hard Light for the very reasons you posted earlier.  I honestly don't know why I even read through this thread, but I see exactly what you're putting a fuss up over.  Thanks for saying something, I second it entirely.

[Blaise Russel]

Yeah, you do have a point, Shadow. Hostile threads do create a hostile atmosphere, and religion and politics are the quickest ways to pressing people's buttons.

I wish more people remembered that we're all posting here on sufferance. I don't know... maybe that would remind people that we all ought to be playing nice.

So, uh, how about a sing-song everyone?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Blaise Russel

So, uh, how about a sing-song everyone?

We'd probably fight about the song........

[Blaise Russel]

No we wouldn't!

[aldo_14]

You take that back!

[Fineus]

I think this one's done now.