[neolex]

Ok, seeing that there is little support for a joint project, I guess I'll do it myself. I would however, appreciate some feedback.

The main purpose of the UFR is to integrate as many campaigns as possible into FS storywise. I've played most of the available campaigns, and so far arrived at these selections to integrate:

Derelict
Warzone
Aeos Affair
Deuterium Connection
Pandora's Box
Enemies United
Inner Troubles

Inferno MOD

I have not played all available campaigns yet, nor did I consider any incomplete ones yet. So this list will grow. Some might be dropped from the list because although all of the above camapigns are plausibly compatible with FS2 (there are no 7 colossus in engagagement 20 years later), they might not be compatble with each other.

If you have any other campaigns to suggest, complete or otherwise, know of some contradictions, or would like to flame me, please reply.

Also, I thought of a different name for UFR (sounds boring). It would be in the form of a reference database avilable to a GTVA pilot hence -

TEnet - Terran Encyclopedia NETwork

Comments and suggestions are welcome.

[Mad Bomber]

So where would the respective governments go? Like, VPE and its pre-GTVA successor? (Khonsu probably wouldn't have gone on calling it Parliamentary after he dissolved the Parliament. I'm thinking Grand Vasudan Imperium or something.)

Also, let's not integrate Enemies United, or any campaign that brings out a second Colossus, or a returned NTF/HOL conglomerate.

Warzone, Derelict, Twilight, and BWO were meant to be written into each other. (So is HFH, for that matter.) STL, Homesick, Crucible, and my Side Project(TM) should work pretty well, too, as should Aeos and Pandora.

One that's reasonable and poses problems for continuity, IMO, is Awakenings. But the Reconstruction period was intentionally left undefined by [V], so that we could define it ourselves. Having the Shivans around up until '38 or '39 shouldn't mess up the timeline too much. Just means that the Adharan Coalition might not have existed until '39-ish.

Oh, one other thing. Should we add the pseudocanon nodes (Ribos-Vega, Beta Cygni-Ribos, Deneb-Altair) and if so, what should be label them as? Phasing nodes (and thus not sanctioned or on the official map)?

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by neolex
The main purpose of the UFR is to integrate as many campaigns as possible into FS storywise.

TBH, I'm against this. The best thing about FS2 has always been the openess of the ending, and indeed the entire timeline, which gives campaign designers a huge amount of freedom. Do this, and newer people might assume it's some sort of fan accepted canon, and therefore feel obligated to follow it, diminishing that degree of freedom. The rest of us who know better will just disregard it if it doesn't fit into our storylines (And for the majority of campaigns, I doubt it will), so you'd end up with something that'd be restrictive to the uninitiated and irrelevant to the rest of us. Strikes me as something of a waste of time.

[SSX-Killjoy]

I it is possible to provide multiple timelines in a project, just setup branches off the main tree when someone has done a campaign that doesn't fit what would be the accepted timeline.

It is more work, but it seems silly to leave out people's campaigns just becuase they don't follow the same line of thinking as everyone else.

[neolex]

Thanks for replys guys.

-----------------
Mad Bomber, I'll take another look at Enemies United, and see what was their reasoning for second Collossus, but you're right its probably off the list. NHOL did indeed seem a little implausible.

When will BWO be complete, I played the demo and it is awesome? But for now I'm sticking to completed campaigns, as they are easier to manage. Havent played Awekenings yet, still on to do list.

I think all the Jump nodes mentioned in campaigns should be added to the node map. Thats the idea.

So, again, do you want to do this together, so we could somehow split the work?
---------------------

Black Wolf, I see your point. However, I think potential advantages of this are much greater than potential disadvantages. The idea is, in fact, to create a fan accepted canon.

Designers freedom is only limited by designers imagination. There is currently the FS1-FS2 canon, but it did not stop the designers from creating campaigns that contradict it. Nor did it stop people from playing those campaigns. If anything, this project will make designer's work easier, by giving them a readily avaialble reference if they want to make their work coherent with other campaigns and FS1-FS2.
--------------------

KillJoy, I thought about what you suggested, but it is a lot of work, UFR, being already a monumental task. However, there is no reason why branching out cannot be created as a subproject later.

[Primus]

Originally posted by TrashMan


NODEMAP - Fs2 nodemap. When you hover (or click) over a system detailed info about it pops up.
 

Check my site files :thepimp:

It's not that high quality thingy, though

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by neolex
The idea is, in fact, to create a fan accepted canon.

Well... you should know at the outset that that's just not going to happen, not to the degree I suspect that you want it to anyway. It's been tried before, and inevitably ends up stillborn because trying to get anything generally accepted in a community full of people telling differing stories is only going to piss people off if their stuff doesn't get to be fanon.

[Getter Robo G]

Plus I thnk you forgot about Silent Threat

[neolex]

Black Wolf, I think you forgot something.

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,13108.0.html

This is close to what I want to accomplish, albeit on a more global level, rather than what pilot's day consists off, what was GTVA doing for the next 100 years. And the best fan fiction are campaigns.


Primus, I saw your nodemap, pretty cool. Would you be able to do another one for the TEnet (UFR) project. Also, can I use some of your system data?


Getter Robo, Silent Threat is part of the canon anyway, it will inevitably be included like FS1-FS2


Does anyone have or know where to get the long-forgotten Freespace Encyclopedia (FSE2.zip), preferrably latest version ?

[Primus]

I can do another. And all the system data is gathered from these forums, FSDoc, Sandwich's site and the Freespace Encylopaedia, which I have

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by neolex


http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,13108.0.html

Yeah - the reaction I got here showed me what people tended to think about the idea. Since then, I've thought about it myself and decided it really isn't a good idea. While I'd still like to know what fighter pilots do all day, trying to unify the timeline didn;t work then, it hasn't worked since and I very much doubt it'll work this time.