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Freespace 2's society???
how is the Freespace 2's society???

the mankind transformed into one single culture?
or viceversa, the different envoriments have produced even more different cultures???

In FS1 and FS2 i saw these ethnics groups:
1- asiatic (Station Rivera's operator? FS1 intro movie)
2- african (Command from FS2)
3- western european.

all of them talking USA's style english...

what about the arabs...and many others existing ethnic groups...and future existing groups...

a low-gravity planet would make people taller (not immediately..of course)
a high-gravity would do the contrary...

i'm not really sure what effects would do to people a dry enviroment, a wet enviroment, one cold, one warm...
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Since people have only been living in the outer systems of the GTVA for something like 70-80 years by FS2, I doubt there'd be time for planetary effects on the people living there.  Everyone does speak American English, but whether that's just the required language of the GTVA military or more general to the rest of Terran society isn't exactly clear.
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It's very plausible that american english is the standard language for the GTVA military personnel...
...but, i wonder...remember when Command let Bosch escape (mission 3?).................in such ocassions, one (the pilot that says that Command let Bosch escape) would talk in his primary language....
either his primary languague was american english or.............he wasn't angry enough......
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Everyone does speak American English


Unless you have the german version of the game. :p
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maybe they doesn't all speak american english. vasudans don't ,but we can understand them cause of the translator.
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Or maybe a one point of Freespace's history the Americans (or germans - depending on your version) conqured the world.

 

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Or maybe it's all in one language for the sake of easy understanding for the player?

(actually, the FSRef bible defines english as the standard Terran 'spacer' language IIRC; a bit like English is for current-day ATC).

 

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Or you have a screwed up translator and instead of everyone sounding normal, everyone is yanks (shudders).
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Found it in the ref bible;
[q]Terran-Vasudan communication was relatively easy to establish, despite the fact that Vasudan vocal cords are unable to make the sounds needed to produce the English language (now refered to as “Terran Standard” by spacers).  [/q]

 

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They speak American English because [V] had no British voice actors.
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Or maybe a one point of Freespace's history the Americans (or germans - depending on your version) conqured the world.


you can conquer the world...but you can't force everyone to forget they primary language and teach them your own primary language...
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you can conquer the world...but you can't force everyone to forget they primary language and teach them your own primary language...



Did I say that the "conquered people" have to forget their own language? Forget no, teach yes. They simply will have to learn the language of their new masters. Just look at the former conquered colonies such as the Philippines (they know English, Spanish), Vietnam (French) or Hong Kong/Singapore (English etc). They know the language of their masters as well as their own native tongue
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Umm... I thinks that that there was this big unification war with all the major countries taking part. The war was fought on Land, Sea, Air, and most importantly, Space. Any country controlling space could easily fire down at any target on earth.

English (or German) becomes the standard language of Europe. Europe then allies with America to take over the world with their spacefleets. The survivors that speak a foreign tounge are forced to speak "Terran standard", this is all done for the sake of effieciency, so an interstellar society can always communicate with each other. This takes place just after the discovery of subspace when all the countries were fighting over the jump node. Think about it, any country that controls the node can reel in massive amounts of pofit with taxes, fares, trade agreements, etc. So it makes sense that every major country is so desperate to control the node.
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so...
languages dissapeared???
the only tongue known is english?!
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Yep. English and Vasudan. The newly formed GTA felt that everyone needed to speak english in order to communicate effieciently. So, they made it law. This change doesen't occur without rebellion of course, but the GTA quickly put them down with their new 2k warship (kick@$$ Orion Destroyer).
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so...
spanish
german
british english
chinese, etc...

are unknown to the FS2's Society...............how, sad...

i suppose that only the Elite of the Elite knows the forgotten languagues...just for, fun...or...curiosity...

The GTVA is in charge of interstellar exploration and colonization...
i wonder how does the GTVA colonize...i mean, err, they use some kind of genetical manipulation to adapt the colonizers to the new planet's enviroment??or somethin'?............they 'draft' colonizers...or they offer credits (money) for colonization...

Personally, i think that each Planet has his own government (like the greek city-states)...i'm not sure if there are international boundaries inside the planets...
What's more probable?
-A Central Government controlling the planet..
-A Federal Government controlling the planet...
-Several autonomous governments...

Each government surely keeps a 'Planetary Guard' (like the USA's states having National Guard....right?)
I wonder if this Planetary Guard is comprised of land forces only, or air-space forces too...
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I think they live in large biodomes, with the inside of the domes Earthlike with trees and all that. They also have gravity adjusters to simulate Earth's gravity. It makes sense that each planet has it's own government, but GTVA central government can easily overrule any of their descisions. About the planetary guard, I think the GTVA fleet is pretty much in charge of military stuff. The planet probably ownes civillian vessels for transportation, though. There probably woulden't be more than 1 government on any given planet unless there absolutley needed to be for some reason.
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What about the civilian population? Not everyone is in the GTVA Military, so what planets were just a 'new sol' for the time we were out of contact with earth?
Like a new earth, where a large (our main) civilian population, who calls the planet home, dwells?

If so how is the civilian ships?
Is it like FL where a good amount of the civilians have their own personal fighters? Or what?

Also how does the civilian\miltary news systems work? What companies go out and report?
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What about the civilian population? Not everyone is in the GTVA Military, so what planets were just a 'new sol' for the time we were out of contact with earth?
Like a new earth, where a large (our main) civilian population, who calls the planet home, dwells?

No planet can be a replacement for Earth, because even the most human-friendly planets lack the atnospheric components needed to support human life. So they probably live in large domes on the surface of Mars or Moon like planets. Inside these domes, there are entire cities of trade and manufacturing. Rich people live in homes somewhere in the domes, where poor people probably live in underground caverns beneath the domes.
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If so how is the civilian ships?
Is it like FL where a good amount of the civilians have their own personal fighters? Or what?

Rich civillians may have their own personal herc or ulysees, but these civilians are in an extreme minority. Civillians usually charter Transports in order to go somewhere off planet.

The news network is a federal agency funded and operated by the GTVA. People that work for the news network are considered government employees.
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Rich people live in homes somewhere in the domes, where poor people probably live in underground caverns beneath the domes.


You've been watching Total Recall entirely too much :D

Personally I tend to agree with you in part though. The more newly colonised planets probably will be dome habitations. There should be a few that have been terraformed sufficiently well to allow people to live on the surface though.
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