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Offline Grug

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Reply #20 on: February 25, 2005, 06:18:05 pm
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Reply #21 on: February 25, 2005, 06:35:00 pm
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God damn that guy has more lives than jesus

hmm.  I wonder what that means. :rolleyes:
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Reply #22 on: February 25, 2005, 06:53:27 pm
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Examples plz.


To clarify, it's through and because of his position of authority and responsibility over the Catholic Church that gives him the most negative points in my book. Specifics? Well, gay bishops or cardinals or whatever, for one. Blatantly anti-Biblical, right there.

If you want something more personal to him, then you may be disappointed, as I haven't researched the guy. But wasn't there some sort of "we all worship the same God" line he gave in regard to the 3 major mono-theistic religions? If that's an accurate recollection, then that's not only blatantly anti-Biblical, but blasphemous as well.
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Reply #23 on: February 25, 2005, 07:07:52 pm
Gay Bishops and Cardinals? Hailing from an alternate universe, are we? Catholic priests take a vow to be celibate, which kind of blocks the entire issue, assuming they follow their vow. There's also the whole theological issue, in which the Roman Catholic Church declares of homosexual relations: "Under no circumstances can they be approved."*

Also, the "we all worship the same God" thing is incredibly logical, as all three major monotheistic religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) all derive from Judaism.

*That's a direct quote from this page, under point 2357.
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Reply #24 on: February 25, 2005, 07:24:25 pm
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Gay Bishops and Cardinals? Hailing from an alternate universe, are we? Catholic priests take a vow to be celibate, which kind of blocks the entire issue, assuming they follow their vow. .


Haven´t you heard? There are quite a few of them in Boston.
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Reply #25 on: February 25, 2005, 07:25:33 pm
Would be rather difficult, as there's only one bishop in Boston :p Also, those priests (note the difference in title) have been for the most part defrocked.
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Reply #26 on: February 25, 2005, 07:57:47 pm
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Also, the "we all worship the same God" thing is incredibly logical, as all three major monotheistic religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) all derive from Judaism.


Shh... you're not supposed to tell that to an American or Israeli!

Otherwise it might usher in a new era of peace and put an end to arms sales! Take one for the team and keep quiet, take one for capitalism!
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Reply #27 on: February 25, 2005, 08:06:20 pm
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Shh... you're not supposed to tell that to an American or Israeli!

Otherwise it might usher in a new era of peace and put an end to arms sales! Take one for the team and keep quiet, take one for capitalism!



Oh shut up :p
 

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Reply #28 on: February 25, 2005, 08:18:51 pm
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Oh shut up :p


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Reply #29 on: February 25, 2005, 11:54:26 pm
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hmm.  I wonder what that means. :rolleyes:


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Reply #30 on: February 26, 2005, 12:38:31 am
AFAIK, the Church(capitals always means the Vatican) started allowing priests to marry a while ago.  Monks and Nuns still can't though.

And the Vatican has been suspiciously silent on the matter of so many of their priests apparently being paedophiles.
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Reply #31 on: February 26, 2005, 05:40:01 am
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And there is a reason for the bulletproof Popemobile. Namely, the assasination attempt about twenty years ago.


I know that's the reason. Hardly shows that he's got no fear of death though does it? :)
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Reply #32 on: February 26, 2005, 08:43:06 am
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Gay Bishops and Cardinals? Hailing from an alternate universe, are we? Catholic priests take a vow to be celibate, which kind of blocks the entire issue, assuming they follow their vow. There's also the whole theological issue, in which the Roman Catholic Church declares of homosexual relations: "Under no circumstances can they be approved."*

Also, the "we all worship the same God" thing is incredibly logical, as all three major monotheistic religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) all derive from Judaism.

*That's a direct quote from this page, under point 2357.


They can say whatever they want, but that doesn't refute that fact that gay bishops exist.

As for the "same God" thing, wrong. The inside of the Dome of the Rock states a few times that (paraphrased) "there is no God but Allah, and He has no Son". Kinda rules out Christianity <--> Islam, don't it?
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Reply #33 on: February 26, 2005, 08:51:40 am
no it does not rule them out of being spawned from the same source, I'm sure there are some anti-jewish statments writen in some church somewere.
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Reply #34 on: February 26, 2005, 08:55:06 am
You know that mobile could owned by that gun TrashMan posted a while back (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn56-e.htm).

Besides which the only thing that protects anyone like the Pope is the suicidal following he has - ****ing with him is more bother than it's worth in the long run for any major power.

Edit:

Sandwich, many people argue Jesus was not literally a son of god, rather a corporeal embodiment of him/her/it. So in fact, the argument could be made that Islam and Christianity do not contradict each other-  they just have some translation problems.

That all relies on believing in a God in the first place of course. ;)
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Reply #35 on: February 26, 2005, 09:13:44 am
LOL @ car picture (hey he got a new one? Last one I saw was a clear box over a red wagon!)...

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Reply #36 on: February 26, 2005, 09:20:42 am
*mark as junkmail*.... click
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Reply #37 on: February 26, 2005, 12:52:46 pm
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As for the "same God" thing, wrong. The inside of the Dome of the Rock states a few times that (paraphrased) "there is no God but Allah, and He has no Son". Kinda rules out Christianity <--> Islam, don't it?


So by that logic the Jewish God also isn't the christian one. Muslims claim that Jesus was a prophet who has been misinterpreted by his followers as being the Son of God. There you go. They believe that christians believe in the same god as them but that they simply choose the wrong prophet to follow.
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Reply #38 on: February 26, 2005, 01:39:44 pm
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Also, the "we all worship the same God" thing is incredibly logical, as all three major monotheistic religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) all derive from Judaism.
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Reply #39 on: February 26, 2005, 02:04:55 pm
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Kinda rules out Christianity <--> Islam, don't it?


Technically, it's Christian God <--> Islamic God anyways.  

You could even say that the multi-diety religions are worshipping the same God as Christianity (etc), and are simply interpreting the multiple facets as individual entities.
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