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Offline Stealth

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
so i have a 784MB ISO file (windows 2003 server, enterprise, etc.) but i only have 700MB CDs :-/  no where around here has 800MB CD-Rs, and i only need one of the operating system installs on the disk, so i was wondering if anyone has any methods or ways to do this?  anyone ever tried?  i've never messed around with ISOs :-/

 

Offline Grug

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
Um get a 800mb CD?

Or maybe a DVD?

Failing that isn't there ways you can overburn to fit it on?

What program are you using to burn?

 

Offline Grey Wolf

a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
CDs are 703.1 MB or so, contrary to what they claim. Just try burning it, and see what happens.
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Offline Stealth

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
i'm using Nero 5

i can see if it was 1 or 2 MBs over, but this is a little under 100 MB.

also, i don't have a DVD-R drive, and i don't know if you read my first post, but i don't have access to an 800MB CD.

 

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
I don't know much about ISOs either, but can it be extracted or something? With ISObuster?

BTW, I also have an ISO which too big for a CD. Does it help if I compress it?
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Originally posted by Primus
I don't know much about ISOs either, but can it be extracted or something? With ISObuster?

BTW, I also have an ISO which too big for a CD. Does it help if I compress it?


No, you can't compress an ISO. Well, you can, but there's little point - it doesn't burn a smaller CD; you have to uncompress it to burn it.

And I was going to suggest ISOBuster (I think that's the proggie); something to peek inside an ISO and allow you to edit the contents - i.e. remove extraneous files from the image.
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Offline Grey Wolf

a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
Sorry, I misread your post. I had thought that you had written 704MB, not 784MB. Hmm.... I'm really not sure if you can burn it. If it wasn't for the fact that this is an OS, I'd suggest emulating a drive. Your best bet would be trying to overburn it, as you've eliminated all other options.
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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
ISO´s are always  bigger in size than the final CD size. I´ve burned CDs with 800mb before, in normal CDs with no problem.
An ISO is like a BIN file, it holds all the info required to make the burn along with the file you want to burn. Hence the bigger size. But it usually fits in a CD.
Open Nero and select "burn image". Then check the green line on the bottom that shows CD usage. Chances are your file is still inside the "green zone".

If it still doesn´t fit, i suggest DVD. Overburning doesn´t allways produce the best results.
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Offline Rictor

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
Just try burning it. If its an ISO, chances are it fits onto a normal CD since that most likely where it came from. Even if its bigger, it will still probably fit, I've done it before with 750-800mb ISOs and BINs.

 

Offline Grug

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
I did read all of your post.
Mind, I don't think I've seen many 800mb's either, 700mb seems to be the standard nowadays.

You could try another ISO burning program, such as alchohol 110% etc.

Else, split it and put it on two CD's.

Googled this: http://club.cdfreaks.com/lite/t-44265.html
Might be worth a look.

Edit: And this explains why: http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135642
« Last Edit: February 25, 2005, 08:42:41 pm by 501 »

 

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Hmmm, this reminds me of a similar situation I had with some cue/bins a while back, but I couldn't find the thread I made.

Regardless, i ended up having to use burnatonce to make the CDs from the cue/bins.  Hope this helps.
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Offline Stealth

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YO guys, thx for all the responses...

i'm going to try alcohol 120, ISObuster, and also splitting the CD to two CDs, as was mentioned,  i'll keep you all posted on what happens :)

once again, thanks for all the suggestions

 

Offline Stealth

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overburning:  won't work...


tried editing the ISO with ISObuster, but there's too many damn files for me to even begin to start :p

alcohol 120%'s "virtual drive" i don't think would work with a bootable ISO

 

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
OK, I can tell you right now, what you are trying to do is all wrong.  When I burn a data CD from ISO/RAW, I ALWAYS write at 2352 bytes/sector.  Trust me, Mode 1 is your friend.  The extra hundred megs or so are part of the error correction mentioned in that article.  However, since you're using some trash writing software, it isnt smart enough to tell whats what.  Nero is also your friend.  Learn to love it.
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Offline Stealth

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Originally posted by Scuddie
OK, I can tell you right now, what you are trying to do is all wrong.  When I burn a data CD from ISO/RAW, I ALWAYS write at 2352 bytes/sector.  Trust me, Mode 1 is your friend.  The extra hundred megs or so are part of the error correction mentioned in that article.  However, since you're using some trash writing software, it isnt smart enough to tell whats what.  Nero is also your friend.  Learn to love it.


If you were familiar with Nero, you'd know that the screenshot i posted was the window Nero 5 displays while it's burning a CD.  



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Offline Liberator

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Stealth, use burnatonce.  It recognizes the mode the disc was written in and uses the appropriate burn mode.
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Offline Scuddie

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Who the hell uses Nero 5??
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Offline Nix

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a 784MB ISO file... and a 700MB CD... oh the decisions
Swamp thing is right on this, Nearly every ISO image I've made is way over 700 mp for full discs.  You have to use the "Burn Image" option under the File menu and select the ISO for burning. Do NOT add the .ISO image to a new compliation or anything like that.  When using the Burn Image method, you will be asked for an .NRG image file.  Ignore that and make it look for All Files and select your .ISO file.  Nero should "Translate" the ISO into the proper CDDA Filesystem format, fitting the data onto the disc.  You cant just burn the .ISO file to disc because the .ISO file is an IMAGE.  Images will include extra information such as disk geometry, etc, usually.  If you burn the image file itself onto CD, you'd be burning that extra 50 mb.  If you have nero "translate" the image into a real CDDA filesystem format, it will fit - In theory.

 

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Why not mount the disk and see what could be tossed? The support folder could probably be dumped onto another disk. IIRC what you need is the i386 folder.
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Why not mount the disk and see what could be tossed? The support folder could probably be dumped onto another disk. IIRC what you need is the i386 folder.


..'cause probably there is no need to do so.
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