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Offline Cobra

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Reply #20 on: March 02, 2005, 11:39:26 pm
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I run regular Freespace 2, simply because I can't get SCP to behave on my computer.


same here. although i use tom's build. would that count as SCP?
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Reply #21 on: March 03, 2005, 07:41:27 am
Nope. Tom's Build is basically retail as far as I'm concerned.
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Reply #22 on: March 03, 2005, 10:57:51 am
I usually play SCP unless my only option is vanilla. I don't use Fred 2 open because it's really buggy and I want Vanillaspacers to be able to play my missions too.

hmmmm..... *Volcabulary added to Databank: Vanillaspacers* :lol:
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Reply #23 on: March 06, 2005, 05:50:25 am
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hmmmm..... *Volcabulary added to Databank: Vanillaspacers*


So THATS what I am... Doesn't feel so glamourus...:blah:
 

Offline Andreas

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Reply #24 on: March 06, 2005, 06:09:51 am
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I run regular Freespace 2, simply because I can't get SCP to behave on my computer.
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Reply #25 on: March 06, 2005, 08:46:53 am
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I run regular Freespace 2, simply because I can't get SCP to behave on my computer.


Guys, I take it you've made sure these bugs are in the bug database?
 

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Reply #26 on: March 06, 2005, 09:14:53 am
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So THATS what I am... Doesn't feel so glamourus...


My advice would be to get Freespace Open. If it doesent behave on your computer or if you Graphics card/processer cant handle it, get a new ones. It's definatley worth it!

Besides, there are some campaigns coming out without FS Open required. I think this is due to the bugs encountered in Fred 2 open. When I make missions, I use standard Fred for that reason. That way, I can actually save loadouts and get decent Y axis ship perception while at the same time allowing Vanillaspacers to play my missions.
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Reply #27 on: March 06, 2005, 09:33:14 am
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Originally posted by KappaWing

My advice would be to get Freespace Open. If it doesent behave on your computer or if you Graphics card/processer cant handle it, get a new ones. It's definatley worth it!


Um.. I dont agree with this statement. You should only upgrade if you need to run FSO with high settings.

If you have bugs or slowdowns with low spec settings then make sure there is a bug in the database, add any information you can and start threads in the source forum to politely draw our attention to your issues.

We are doing our best but its not easy and if you want things to get better you must be willing to help diagnose and test the problems.
 

Offline MicroPsycho

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Reply #28 on: March 06, 2005, 12:04:48 pm
Is there a chocolate Freespace?






lame, I know
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Reply #29 on: March 06, 2005, 12:29:25 pm
Not used SCP in a while, mainly because I'm FREDing for Retail, still have TBP on though.
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Reply #30 on: March 06, 2005, 11:55:01 pm
Both. I can't stand some of the shortcommings of FSO (or maybe they might just be too high-end oriented, like those Herc models),then again the lighting in FSO is tasty. On the other hand, nothing beats watching the FMVs on the retail FS2.
 

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Reply #31 on: March 06, 2005, 11:53:18 pm
:wtf: you don't have a decent video card or something... the herc models handled fine on my comp.

[EDIT] gah. timewarp. reply to sfried.
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I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta
 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Reply #32 on: March 07, 2005, 12:20:46 am
SCP. Definitely SCP. :p


Cutscenes should work in FSO, btw. You just need the AVIs.
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Reply #33 on: March 07, 2005, 12:51:13 am
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SCP. Definitely SCP. :p


Cutscenes should work in FSO, btw. You just need the AVIs.


I already have the files, and they work fine, 'cept the AVI's themselves are not as good quality as the MVE files on the disk. Must've probably been screencaptured, since the intro AVI has a weird "jitter" in the beginning.

Cobra: The Herc models run fine on D3D, but they take quite a beating when put into OpenGL with forced 2xAA on... And I have a GForce FX 5200 Go. Also, they kinda look out of place when compared to your "low-end" Herc 2 models. I wish they added some tint to the glass on those Hercs to make it more... consistent (Didn't need to waste all the extra polys on the internals of the engine. Could've just probably left it to shinemaps and such. Also, the "tail" light of the Herc is green, not red). Same with the Leviathans/Fenris: I downloaded the lower end models not only because they'd perform better but they are consistent with the models used in the FMVs. (It'd look pretty funny after seeing those clips that what you get in-game looks alot more spiffier)

Also, perhaps the reason I still play FS2: It's easier to see if your shots "hit," as opposed to FSO's smaller, "spazier" shield-hit effects which aren't quite noticable unless you're up close.
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Reply #34 on: March 07, 2005, 12:58:29 am
Er, sorry, I got your name and Cobra's mixed up somehow. :nervous:
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Reply #35 on: March 07, 2005, 10:29:16 am
:lol:

not that hard to mix us up, isn't it?
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I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta
 

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Reply #36 on: March 07, 2005, 10:31:14 am
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SCP. Definitely SCP. :p


we all knew you were going to say that :p
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta
 

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Reply #37 on: March 07, 2005, 01:34:43 pm
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Both. I can't stand some of the shortcommings of FSO (or maybe they might just be too high-end oriented, like those Herc models)


You do know that mv_models.vp is 100% optional don't you? If the high poly models cause low frame rates don't use them. Simply use the fix vp's from that thread I started instead of mv_models and you'll be fine.

In fact everything in the media.vp files are completely optional
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Reply #38 on: March 07, 2005, 01:56:55 pm
FSOpen. It actually runs slightly better than normal FS2 on my system. O_o

Although Fred2 Opens bugs are starting to make me hit the monitor...
 

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Reply #39 on: March 07, 2005, 05:47:58 pm
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Originally posted by Ferret
FSOpen. It actually runs slightly better than normal FS2 on my system. O_o

Although Fred2 Opens bugs are starting to make me hit the monitor...


Make sure any problems you encounter for Fred are also in the database. I will try to find time to look over them problems my OGL code caused.
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