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Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW - 24 inches of widescreen goodness
on: March 08, 2005, 04:07:28 pm
Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24-inch Wide Aspect Flat Panel LCD Monitor



9 / 10 @ ExtremeTech review

[q]Diagonal Size: 24"
     Display Type: Flat Panel Display / Active Matrix TFT - Desktop
     Depth: 9"
     Features: 100 mm VESA Mounting, Height Adjustable Stand Included, Detachable Panel mechanism
     Height: Compressed: 22", Extended: 25"
     Weight: 22.1 lbs
     Width: 22"
     Image Max H-View Angle: ±89°
     Image Max V-View Angle: ±89°
     Color Support: 16.7 Million
     Connectivity Technology: Cable
     Device Type: Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand
     Dimensions (WxDxH): 22" x 9" x 22" to 25"
     Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight: 22" x 9" x 22" to 25" / 22.1 lbs
     Enclosure Color: Midnight Gray
     Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10
     Image Brightness: 500 cd/m²(typical)
     Image Contrast Ratio: 1000:1 (typical)
     Max Resolution: 1920x1200 (WUXGA)
     Max Sync Rate (V x H): 76 Hz x 81 kHz
     Power Consumption Operational: 80 W (maximum)
     Diagonal Size / Viewable Size: 24" / 24"
     Port(s) Total (Free) / Connector Type: 15-pin D-sub / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / Component / 4 x USB 2.0
     Compatibility: PC[/q]

It comes with a 9-in-1 flash card reader, pivot functionality, and none of the backlighting problems that plagued the 20" 2005FPW! Very few dead pixel reports, also unlike the 2005FPW.

All for $1199 retail (easily below $1k with the famous Dell discounts and coupons)???

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Reply #1 on: March 08, 2005, 04:21:50 pm
Dell sucks
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Reply #2 on: March 08, 2005, 04:30:53 pm
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Originally posted by Splinter
Dell sucks


their tft screens are actually pretty decent. not eizo class, of course, but still...
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Reply #3 on: March 08, 2005, 04:38:51 pm
Ignore him; he's just jealous. And prejudiced. And stuck in the past.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #4 on: March 08, 2005, 05:53:36 pm
So are you going to buy it or are you just into marketing all of the sudden? :p
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Reply #5 on: March 08, 2005, 06:30:56 pm
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Dell sucks
Bunny stole my signature :(.

Sorry boobies.
 

Offline Turnsky

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Reply #6 on: March 08, 2005, 06:35:36 pm
*saves up for this anyway*

;)

what can i say?.. i still like my CRT's.
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Reply #7 on: March 08, 2005, 06:41:24 pm
Where's the response time?
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Reply #8 on: March 08, 2005, 07:14:00 pm
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Where's the response time?
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Reply #9 on: March 08, 2005, 07:34:49 pm
Response time is actually a very interesting point with the 2405. IIRC, it's rated as 16ms black-white, and 12ms gray-gray. However, the Samsung panel it's based around is rated at 8ms!

Subjective tests by [H] forumites have revealed a near-indetectable amount of smearing/ghosting, and then only when rapidly jerking around windows in the OS. Absolutely no problems playing games are reported.

And yes, I'm gonna buy it. Many people have been able to get it from Dell reps over the phone as low as $860 USD... ;7
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #10 on: March 09, 2005, 01:57:45 am
Sweet jebus thats just under 500 quid. For that size of lcd? Crikey.
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Reply #11 on: March 09, 2005, 07:15:09 am
It's no Apple http://www.apple.com/displays/

But the price is right....
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Reply #12 on: March 09, 2005, 09:38:38 am
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It's no Apple http://www.apple.com/displays/

But the price is right....


:doubt:

20-inch Widescreens


Apple Cinema 20": $999.00
Viewing Angle: 170° horizontal, 170° vertical
Brightness: 250 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 400:1
Response time (typical): 16ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: No
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt
Ports: 2 USB, 2 Firewire

Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20": $750 list ($636.65 as I type this)
Viewing Angle: 176° horizontal, 176° vertical
Brightness: 300 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 600:1
Response time (typical): 12ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: Yes
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt, height adjustment, rotation, pivot
Ports: 4 USB

23/24-inch Widescreens


Apple Cinema 23": $1,799.00
Viewing Angle: 170° horizontal, 170° vertical
Brightness: 270 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 400:1
Response time (typical): 16ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: No
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt
Ports: 2 USB, 2 Firewire

Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24": $1,299
Viewing Angle: 178° horizontal, 178° vertical
Brightness: 500 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 1000:1
Response time (typical): 12ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: Yes
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt, height adjustment, rotation, pivot
Ports: 4 USB
Extras: Built-in 9-in-1 flash memory card reader


30-inch Widescreens


Apple Cinema 30": $2,999.00
Viewing Angle: 170° horizontal, 170° vertical
Brightness: 270 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 400:1
Response time (typical): 16ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: No
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt
Ports: 2 USB, 2 Firewire

Dell 30" unavailable. Yet.

Finally, the Apple Cinema displays get mediocre reviews, whereas the Dell UltraSharp widescreens get good to great reviews. Ergo:

Dell LCD widescreens > Apple Cinema displays

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #13 on: March 10, 2005, 07:36:08 am
Meh, they are still not as cool...
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Reply #14 on: March 10, 2005, 05:17:32 pm
True. You be cool and empty-of-pockets, I'll have better hardware, with money left over. :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #15 on: March 10, 2005, 05:31:36 pm
a good flatscreen CRT will still outdo any LCD you throw at it. the only justifyable reason to buy an LCD is space.
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Reply #16 on: March 10, 2005, 05:32:05 pm
God I love LCDs.

Not because I actually use them, but things like this seriously drive the price down on high quality CRTs.  Heck, ordered a 21 inch trinitron tube, used but in good condition, for $200 shipped from AZ to PA.  Not too long ago that would've cost a small fortune, and you still can't beat the quality of Sony CRTs.
 

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Reply #17 on: March 10, 2005, 06:28:29 pm
Something IceFire said awhile back is applicable to me...

I dislike having something with a cathode-ray gun in it pointed at my head. :p

As a result, I have a nifty Samsung Syncmaster 712n. Only $275 at OfficeMax, great quality (Except for the water stain in the corner. Yes, it really is water.), and a fast response time so I don't go insane by playing games. :D
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Reply #18 on: March 10, 2005, 07:46:59 pm
I honestly dislike Dell from experiance.  If I was rich, I'd contemplate that monitor. But for the moment, the Sony S74 is more along my lines.
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Reply #19 on: March 11, 2005, 02:37:13 am
GW, from reports I've heard, it seems like Dell Computers and Dell LCD Monitors are two seperate companies. The may have a 5-dead-pixel policy, but if you call them up and complain about being unsatisfied, you'll have a UPS guy at your door in a few days with a replacement monitor, ready to pick up your old one. Besides, when list price is 1.2 grand, but you can get it for $860 by talking smooth to the reps, you gotta admit there's something to be said for the way they work. :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
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