[Solatar]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf
Perhaps there's some signifigance to Episode III name being derivative from an early title for Episode VI (Revenge of the Jedi).

Return of the Jedi?

[Grey Wolf]

An early title was "Revenge of the Jedi", but it was later changed to "Return of the Jedi" as the other was too dark or something along those lines.

[Clave]

Seems an appropriate place to put this: http://www.merzo.net/

I keep it bookmarked for reference when a geek argument occurs about sizes...

[Ace]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf
An early title was "Revenge of the Jedi", but it was later changed to "Return of the Jedi" as the other was too dark or something along those lines.

Also because Star Trek II was going to be "The Vengeance of Khan" which got changed too.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf
The significant fact left out by that is that the only one that was built in any quantity at all is the ISD.

Actually, there were 6 different death stars built.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf
An early title was "Revenge of the Jedi", but it was later changed to "Return of the Jedi" as the other was too dark or something along those lines.

Changed because a Jedi would not seek revenge (according to Lucas - so it was probably for marketing reasons.....)

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by Carl


Actually, there were 6 different death stars built.

6? I count 4 - DS1 and 2, The prototype they built at the maw, and you might count Darksabre. Where were the others coming from?

[Dark_4ce]

Originally posted by Black Wolf


6? I count 4 - DS1 and 2, The prototype they built at the maw, and you might count Darksabre. Where were the others coming from?

yeah those are the ones I counted as well.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Clave
Seems an appropriate place to put this: http://www.merzo.net/

I keep it bookmarked for reference when a geek argument occurs about sizes...

Yeah, that site rocks - and looks like they just added a "BIG" section, with two elements in there: Ringworld and a Dyson Sphere.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Black Wolf


6? I count 4 - DS1 and 2, The prototype they built at the maw, and you might count Darksabre. Where were the others coming from?

The Coruscant Death Stars. Incomplete twin Death Stars were under construction in orbit around the Imperial Center at approximately the time of the Battle of Endor.

[Dark_4ce]

Never heard of them... What happened to em?

[aldo_14]

I feel sorry for whoever sold the Empire their insurance policy.  You'd think they'd learn the first time round, but noooooo.........

[Clave]

Carl needs to join the SW forum: http://forum.blueharvest.net/ he meets the required level of SW fandom

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
Out of interest, any idea how large the Eclipse class SSD is? If I recall correctly that's the largest starship in the SW universe to date (not counting the Death Stars of course).

It's twice the size of the SSD. If you stick to the 8 km-long SSD variant, it's 16, if you think the real SSD is 12800 m, it's  256000 m, etc.

Changed because a Jedi would not seek revenge (according to Lucas - so it was probably for marketing reasons.....)

For marketing reasons. Lucas said this change was because parents might not take little kids, because of the sounding of the title.

The Coruscant Death Stars. Incomplete twin Death Stars were under construction in orbit around the Imperial Center at approximately the time of the Battle of Endor.

I haven't heard of this. Is this canon? I don't think so, it's not in the starwars.com database. From what source do you know this? A novel? I guess so.

I know those are the real scales. They're also an unimaginable amount of resources to build any one of those but the ISD!

In the SW universe, resources are particularly limitless. Just imagine: the Death Fleet consisted of 80 Star Destroyers.

[Carl]

*sigh*

they are from The Illustrated Star Wars Universe

[NGTM-1R]

Those are torpedo spheres. They use a clustered set of six hundred proton torpedo launchers to break through planetary shields.

Notice they're also much closer to Super Star Destroyer or maybe even ISD size then actual Death Stars. A torpedo sphere is, if memory serves, about 600 meters diameter. Comparison between the Lambda shuttle and the lighted areas in that image would seem to suggest that size.

There are about five, though only three were really as resource-inten: The two actual Death Stars. The prototype at the Maw Installation was only about a third the size of the Death Star 1 and mostly empty space. Darksaber was a flying superlaser and almost totally defenseless. Presumably neither required anything like the resources of an actual Death Star.

However, from long ago in the dim past of Star Wars comics comes the Tarkin, a full-scale Death Star equipped with a massive ion cannon rather then a superlaser.

So, three full-scale Death Stars.

[Flipside]

You know, depending on how it's refined etc you could make 3-4 Death Stars from a single planets supplies. Look at Earth, how many cities has it got? All of those cities are made out of mined resources, and that's just the structures, let alone the amount of material we each waste each day, from coke cans to fubared CDR's. I don't think the amount of material required to make one of these is unfeasible. It's a lot, admittedly, but not inhibitively so.

[pyro-manic]

Given that the Empire has a whole galaxy to plunder for raw materials, I don't think it'd be that hard. Expensive as all hell, due to the logistics, but not technically hard. All you'd need to do is find a moon or planetoid made of iron, and build a big steelworks on it.

Also, hasn't Star Wars got weird technology that means you can make metal transparent (I think I read somewhere that windows were made of it on capital ships, though I could be making it up) and the like? So In theory, you could just get a planet, take it to bits and convert the matter into whatever material you needed to build the ships.

I dunno, I know nothing about Star Wars to be honest, but given the vast scale of the Republic/Empire, I think it'd be quite feasible to build something that big. Whether it'd be practical is another question. ("Yes, we can build you a great big ball covered in guns. Just come back in 300 years!")

[Flipside]

Quite true, even the Star Trek universe replicators, which could construct basic building material with ease out of nothing but energy.

Admittedly, the Death Star was a Folly the size of a small moon, but then, that was exactly what Sideous planned for it to be, it's completely bloated and pointless really, the ISD fleet could lay waste to several planets simultaneously, but Sideous understood the power of Symbols and that's exactly what the Death Star was. When the first one was destroyed, he had no choice but to try to build a second, pride is part of a Sith's makeup after all

Personally, I'd have grabbed a small moon, strapped a big gun and a couple of engines to it if I wanted something like that

[SadisticSid]

Originally posted by Clave
Seems an appropriate place to put this: http://www.merzo.net/

I keep it bookmarked for reference when a geek argument occurs about sizes...

Sweet... they even have the Sathanas on there