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Offline vyper

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I'm currently watching Baz Lurmans Romeo & Juliet. I was wondering what everyone thinks of these modernized versions?
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Tales for the l33t is the best remake of Romeo and Juliet.  It surpasses the original.
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Offline Ford Prefect

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The problem with Shakespeare is that many filmmakers seem to see his thematic universality as an excuse to rape his plays and make retarded movies. So, there are some good ones and some god-awful ones. The best one I've ever seen is the 1993 movie of "Much Ado about Nothing". "A Midsummer Night's Dream" with Rupert Everett was also decent. I never saw that "Romeo and Juliet" but it looked damn ****ty.
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Offline Rictor

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hrm, I remember Hamlet (with Ethan Hawke) not being too shabby.
I actually think that modern remakes of Shakespeare are a good idea, cause all the supposedly great messages get lost on the audience when you see people running around in tights and having swordfights.

 

Offline BlackDove

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Originally posted by Ford Prefect
rape his plays and make retarded movies.  


That went through my mind when I saw the title.

For his time, the man was brilliant, but they're really ****ing him up the ass, because they are fecating all over his work by putting out **** that...isn't what he wrote really.

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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I've been meaning to watch Kurosawa's Throne of Blood at some point. It's MacBeth in feudal Japan, but Kurosawa made excellent movies. Expensive DVDs, though. 40 USD for The Seven Samurai when I bought it.
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The Lion King was good.
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I've been meaning to watch Kurosawa's Throne of Blood at some point. It's MacBeth in feudal Japan, but Kurosawa made excellent movies. Expensive DVDs, though. 40 USD for The Seven Samurai when I bought it.


Kurosawa made _some of the best movies EVER_ though my Seven Samurai copy didn't cost me anything.

Uhh.....yeah.....anyway, Throne of Blood is something I've still yet to see. I can safely persume it's a very good movie though.

  

Offline Ford Prefect

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The Lion King was good.

No version of a Shakespeare play can compare with the original without using Shakespeare's actual verse. His language was what made his plays masterpieces.
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Yeah, but the Lion King rocked...
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Offline Ford Prefect

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I assume by "rocked" you mean "was lame and ****ty like all Disney cartoons".
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Offline Taristin

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No, I mean that it was unlike all other Disney movies, asshat.
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Offline Ford Prefect

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Oh.... I've never heard it defined that way. Anyway, yeah, I liked Disney movies as a kid but now they just rub me the wrong way. They're just so corny to me-- they have no bite to them. (I'm not counting the Disney/Pixar films, which are usually excellent.) And The Lion King was no exception. (It certainly has about zero to do with Shakespeare.)
« Last Edit: March 19, 2005, 08:46:07 pm by 2015 »
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Offline Taristin

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I didn't say it did... ;)
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I know, that was just a side comment, asshat!
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:p
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Offline Carl

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I liked Disney movies as a kid but now they just rub me the wrong way. They're just so corny to me-- they have no bite to them.


I like them more now than i did when i was a kid. i understand them better. most of the classics from the 90's are some of the best movies ever made, animated or otherwise.
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Offline Bobboau

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Loin king was the only good movie Disney ever made.
there were some parts that I wish were diferent, but it's Disney.

it was based on hamlet. but everyone knows that.
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Offline ShadowWolf_IH

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actually, if you watch the Lion King, and then read hamlet, you will find more than a few corellations.  That said, i do not like modernizing shakespear's works.  When i was in high school i played Hamlet, and we had a bare minimum set, i do mean bare, but to be honest, that was how it was written, it was how things were done back then, so i enjoy the memory.

That said, in film making, while i don't mind if we make movies of shakespear's works, i do mind when we have two rival gangs in LA speaking shakespear, i think it's ridiculous and an afront to history.  Filming his works n location is a great thing, low riders and 9mm barettas is stupid.  I have always loved west side story as a great adaptation of romeo and juliet, and i have always thought that an adaptation of Hamlet set in the mafia underworld of new york in the 40's would be good.  I just wish that more film makers would stay true to Shakespear, and curb the artistic liscence that they take with his work.  An adaptation is flattery, if you are not creating an adaptation, then stay the hell away from his works.  

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Offline Ford Prefect

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I'm sorry, but if you take away the Shakespearean verse, you take away Shakespeare. The wit, the asides, the sexual innuendos, the gallows humor, the puns-- all of it disappears when the original laguage is taken away.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2005, 10:43:22 pm by 2015 »
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