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Offline Sandwich

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on: March 28, 2005, 07:44:38 am
Would anybody have any ideas how I can get a typical USB thumb drive to work as a PHP/MySQL webserver, so I can take it in to another computer and load up a dynamic site in a browser? I have an inkling that it's impossible, but can't hurt to ask.
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Reply #1 on: March 28, 2005, 07:52:45 am
I am 99% sure its impossible....i thought of something similiar once.....but since you cant run server software on a thumb drive its impossible.
 

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Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 07:55:40 am
Unless of course you loaded the server software on the target machine, but is that probably defeats the purpose of what your trying to do...
 

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Reply #3 on: March 28, 2005, 08:11:20 am
A drive isn't a processor, you're only bet  is getting a big drive, a Linux distro, and boot from the thumbdrive into a linux distro running all your stuff.
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Reply #4 on: March 28, 2005, 08:13:39 am
I guess it would require there being some sort of standalone Apache "program" that one could run that would map http://127.0.0.1/ to a folder.
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Reply #5 on: March 28, 2005, 08:19:00 am
I think the main issue is storage!=processing.

You need to process stuff to make it dynamic, therefore, you need software installed on some computer.
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Reply #6 on: March 28, 2005, 08:27:44 am
Hmm.... what are you trying to do, exactly?  Dynamically generate content off of a USB drive and view it on a local PC?

(i.e. instead of from remote server, take it from a local server using the USB drive data?)
 

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Reply #7 on: March 28, 2005, 11:19:54 am
[color=66ff00]Looked into thumbdrive distro's a while back and their issues, you need to be careful with the application; thumbdrives have a limited read write life which certain applications can murder.

Offhand I can only remember featherlinux. You get a surprising amount of applications in one of those. Hmmm, Knoppix boots off a CD and might have what you need, they push everything under the sun into one of those ISO's. :nod:
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Reply #8 on: March 28, 2005, 11:45:23 am
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Hmm.... what are you trying to do, exactly?  Dynamically generate content off of a USB drive and view it on a local PC?

(i.e. instead of from remote server, take it from a local server using the USB drive data?)


I have a prototype website I'm building in PHP with a MySQL database tie-in. I'd like to take it to the client's offices to show them, but they do not have any computers with Apache or the equivalent installed. And let's just say that for the sake of argument, I can't upload it anywhere.
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #9 on: March 28, 2005, 12:35:50 pm
Knoppix, or some other LiveCD.

It'll allow you to use the local RAM as RAM, saving your drive. You might still be safer of with a CD, though.
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Reply #10 on: March 28, 2005, 02:37:15 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich


I have a prototype website I'm building in PHP with a MySQL database tie-in. I'd like to take it to the client's offices to show them, but they do not have any computers with Apache or the equivalent installed. And let's just say that for the sake of argument, I can't upload it anywhere.


Well, if you need to borrow use of a remote machine I can give you an MySQL and FTP account on my old freespaceserver  that used to hold Game Warden.
 

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Reply #11 on: March 28, 2005, 03:03:12 pm
The problem with Knoppix is that I need to configure the MySQL and PHP parts of the webserver, and that configuration is not saved on disc, but on HDD.

And I have access to plenty of webservers online that I could potentially use, I just was wondering if there was a USB drive way to accomplish the goal. Guess not, though.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #12 on: March 29, 2005, 12:36:18 am
Extract THIS onto your hard-drive, copy it to the 'thumb' drive.

Then (assuming you've got a driverless USB drive) you can just plug it into a port, open the drive, double-click Start.bat and "Start MySQL Server" on the subsequent admin page, and you're good to go with a fully functional PHP/MySQL/Apache setup running off the drive.

Lord knows how fast or how stable it'll be, but it'll work [in theory].

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Reply #13 on: March 29, 2005, 02:39:26 am
You'd be much better off asking on a Linux forum...

This sounds like something someone might have done, just for amusement. I don't think you'd be able to boot directly from the thumb drive (you'd need a floppy) but it should be possible to make a distro entirely on the thumb drive that does what you want (mounted read-only and using a ramdisk for all file writing needed) - and just have the boot loader on a floppy.

The question is whether or not that exists atm...
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Reply #14 on: March 29, 2005, 11:13:55 am
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Extract THIS onto your hard-drive, copy it to the 'thumb' drive.

Then (assuming you've got a driverless USB drive) you can just plug it into a port, open the drive, double-click Start.bat and "Start MySQL Server" on the subsequent admin page, and you're good to go with a fully functional PHP/MySQL/Apache setup running off the drive.

Lord knows how fast or how stable it'll be, but it'll work [in theory].

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an0n?? :wtf:

That project is precisely what I was looking for. :yes: It works beautifully - danke sheun! :)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #15 on: March 29, 2005, 11:47:39 am
WOW...I'm in awe!
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Reply #16 on: March 29, 2005, 01:33:59 pm
See, I do have my non-destructive uses.

Incidentally, you didn't ban my IP, you banned the local subnet exchange thingy's IP - it's semi-transparent as a security precaution - which means you've banned a large part of North Eastern UK. Good going :yes:
 

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Reply #17 on: March 29, 2005, 03:23:58 pm
So tell me then, why do you keep on doing things that get you banned?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #18 on: March 29, 2005, 03:38:05 pm
Because of the 'Circle Jerk Effect'.

Whereby - being generally pussies - the collective asshattery of the Admin staff results in my innocuous jokes being taken as intentional slander.

From there it progresses into a group therapy session before Shrike comes along and goes "Christ! Just ban him, you bunch of little goddamn girls..."

In short: It's everbody's fault but my own.
 

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Reply #19 on: March 29, 2005, 04:15:20 pm
It is an0n. I guess I was wrong in the other thread. Welcome back. (don't know for how long)
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