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Offline TrashMan

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Inquisition, here we go...

Inquisition, what a show...



We know you're wisi'n
that we go away.
but the inquisition's here
and it's here to stay!
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Offline Kosh

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If were actually serious about wanting america to dominate space, then his administration is going to have to put a lot more money into NASA.......
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Offline Liberator

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The problem with NASA isn't lack of money, it's that they put the Administration in National Aeronautics and Space Administration first with Space and Aeonautics taking a far back seat.
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Offline BlackDove

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I´m glad they grew some common sense. After the last fiasco, they certainly don´t need another huge failure. Ever since i heard they found the cracks in the foam insulation, i had a sense of deja-vu.
Just last week i saw a documentary about the disaster, and how they had every chance to check the damage prior to re-entry, but the higher ups thought it was perfectlly "safe"... Yeah, right!
It wasn´t the foam that killed those 7 astronauts, it was NASA burocracy, and thick headedness from its admins. They thought it would cost too much money to turn satelites and telescopes around for a close-up shot of the wing. Even a simple EVA would have been enough. But no, they prefered to be cheapskates and allow those men to fall to their deaths...
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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I think that without a major overhaul, the shuttle will never be completely free from this kind of threat.  No matter how they modify the tank design, they're still be a danger... and probably one greater than NASA, or to a greater extent, the american people consider acceptable.  They'll pretty much need a complete redesign of either the tank, or the shuttle's tile protection system.  Considering that they've flown for 20 years without encountering any manifestation of this problem serious enough to bring down an orbiter, its reasonable to assume that they could fly the next 5 years without it happenning again.  If I were an astronaught, it's a risk I'd be willing to take.  My point is this:  sure, I think all they've done for the shuttle in their return to flight opperations have proably significantly reduced further threat from this kind of thing, but as I said further up, the threat will never be reduced enough to the satisfaction of those in change of this thing, and I don't think that delaying the launch for 2 months will reduce it any further.  If the lingering threat is considered too great to resume launches, then they should scrap the whole fleet becuse they'll never be satisfied with the threat level.
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Just last week i saw a documentary about the disaster, and how they had every chance to check the damage prior to re-entry, but the higher ups thought it was perfectlly "safe"... Yeah, right!


You have to be very careful when you watch documentaries. They're supposed to take a side. I certainly hope you didn't believe everything you heard.  Documentaries need to be watched with open eyes, listening ears, and most importantly, a questioning mind. Documentaries are just another way the media controls us, but if you can pick one apart, you can see through the bull****.

And by the way, the only thing that's going to get us past the earth is money and power, sad but true, unless someone already with that money and power just simply has a passion for space.

 

Offline karajorma

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That said Swamp Thing is completely correct. NASA did notice the shuttle being hit by the piece that fell off the tank, did have the chance to schedule a space walk to inspect the damage but declined because they assumed that the insulation couldn't cause enough damage to the shuttle to be a danger.

NASA have pretty much admitted to all of this.
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Offline DeepSpace9er

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NASA is useless when it comes to space exploration and technology.. it seems they havent had an original idea in 30 years and that no great space feats have been made besides.... OOH we got a probe to... guess what?! TRACK A SATELITE IN SPACE!!!! Im at a lost for words.

If NASA consisted of 5 people on the payroll, received the same funding, but instead of doing anything, became a prize board that dished out sums of cash to private companys and crap for doing the research and development of radical space vehicle designs and efficient propositions for private space stations and colonies as well as large craft to transport people between planets while remaining in space, the money would go so much farther.
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Offline achtung

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Just wait till some extremely valuable resource is found on another planet.  Like turnsky said:
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"there be gold in dem thar planets!"
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All the large corps. of the world will be like kids in candy stores.
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Offline achtung

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The moon needs to be used as a starting point for space exploration because if you think wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to launch a spacecraft  
 from the moon because of it's lower gravity.  Of course the process of making a launch pad on the moon wouldn't be cheap and suppying it from earth wouldnt be either but it wad still be a stepping stone to other planets.
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Offline Andreas

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Another space race could spice things up. Perhaps China vs. US/ESA? Although I wonder will the US go bankrupt before that happens? :p

But what we really need is unified political will from the major parties (USA, EU, Russia and China) to work together to achieve our goals. ISS is a good start, but what we would really need would be a permanent base on the Moon (not to mention actually going there again, after all these years). Expensive, yes, but well worth it.
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United Federation of Partisan government systems. ;)

Close enough.
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Offline achtung

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What we really need is an enemy for the entire world to unify against, sounds bad but its the fastest way to get things done.:D
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Offline Liberator

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Originally posted by EtherShock
The moon has an abundant supply of titanium, so there's already a valuable resource out there, but mining it could have devastating consequences on Earth.


How so?
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Grey Wolf

It'd destroy the world titanium market, if it's easy enough to mine.
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Offline aldo_14

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I can guess of a few possible consequences; accidents from the returning of ore (it's been theorised rail-guns could be used for this IIRC), the superpowers getting in a pissing match over who has the rights to mine the moon, and the fairly unlikely(IMO-?) consequences of reducing the moons' mass or in some way affecting its orbit and thus the tides.

 

Offline TrashMan

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What we really need is an enemy for the entire world to unify against, sounds bad but its the fastest way to get things done.:D


Yeah...But since there curretnly is none (since we found no other intelligent life out there...YET) we keep going at eachothers throaths..

Hmm..maby we should invent an artifical enemy?
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