[Hippo]

except you rarely had a game that used the left side of the N64 pad... (at least that i saw)...

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Hippo
except you rarely had a game that used the left side of the N64 pad... (at least that i saw)...

True, but it didn't stop it being a ****-hot controller.  I don't think anyone realised just how good the analogue stick would be when it was released (AFAIK it was the first proper analogue console controller).

[Mongoose]

Wait...you actually liked the N64 control?  I think that's the worst console control I've ever used. That stick was so flimsy and cheap, it developed a huge deadzone over time.  My PS1 controllers are still going strong after 6+ years.  Not to mention the fact that its small size and ridges on top absolutely kill your thumb after exteneded play.  Plus, there's the simple fact that 2 hands and 3 grips on a controller don't mix.  (Also, why in the world was the D-pad useless for most games?  I usually preferred the D-pad to the analog sticks on my PS1, considering I had been playing SNES/Genesis with one for years.)  In my mind, the ideal controller is for the PS1/2; all of the buttons are right at your fingertips, and it has a great feel.  The Gamecube is pretty good, too.  If you're going more old-school, the SNES controllers were nice as well.  I can never call the N64 controller anything above mediocre, though.

[Cobra]

Originally posted by Andreas


Anyways, I'd love to try the X-Box controller (THE best console gamepad IMO), but I don't have my X-Box anymore.

And just for the record, are those Logitech joysticks any good? I've seen them sold in here for about 30€ or something.

Raa uses an Xbox controller.

and yes, the logitech joysticks are good. you should get the 3D Extreme Pro. It acts like a sidewinder only it has more buttons. and the feel of it is amazing.

[EDIT] The PS1/2 controllers rock. There's even gamepads that are almost exactly the same.

[Hippo]

Raa said that a few posts up.

[Cobra]

THAT WAS EDITED!!

seriously, i didn't see the rest of that post the first time.

[Andreas]

[Cobra]

so sue me, i read fast.

[KappaWing]

I would recommend the Logitech Freedom 2.4. It is a very high quality controller with a cool side button thing which makes it fun to shoot missles! My only complaint about it would be the throttle control. It's small and located in a bad place. Oh, and it's wireless! I wouldent buy it for that, though. IMO wirelessness is far overrated. It costs about $70. I don't know how much that would be in Euros, though...

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Mongoose
Wait...you actually liked the N64 control?  I think that's the worst console control I've ever used. That stick was so flimsy and cheap, it developed a huge deadzone over time.  My PS1 controllers are still going strong after 6+ years.  Not to mention the fact that its small size and ridges on top absolutely kill your thumb after exteneded play.  Plus, there's the simple fact that 2 hands and 3 grips on a controller don't mix.  (Also, why in the world was the D-pad useless for most games?  I usually preferred the D-pad to the analog sticks on my PS1, considering I had been playing SNES/Genesis with one for years.)  In my mind, the ideal controller is for the PS1/2; all of the buttons are right at your fingertips, and it has a great feel.  The Gamecube is pretty good, too.  If you're going more old-school, the SNES controllers were nice as well.  I can never call the N64 controller anything above mediocre, though.

Yes; I found the N64 vastly better than the PS1 controller, and then the PS2 controller, and also the Xbox & Gamecube controllers.  I find the analog sticks on the PS2 pretty ****ing awful for anything other than lateral left-right movement, in particular.

Albeit; the d-pad was, I believe, implemented as an alternate directional controller for most/many of the games (I remember the ISS games using it in particular).  The reason for the 3 pronged design was to allow for more flexible control schemes; in theory you could use the controller in 3 different ways (d-pad and analog, analog and c-buttons, d-pad and c-buttons).

[Cobra]

Originally posted by KappaWing
I would recommend the Logitech Freedom 2.4. It is a very high quality controller with a cool side button thing which makes it fun to shoot missles! My only complaint about it would be the throttle control. It's small and located in a bad place. Oh, and it's wireless! I wouldent buy it for that, though. IMO wirelessness is far overrated. It costs about $70. I don't know how much that would be in Euros, though...

you mean the button on the thumb grip? yeah, i've always loved those, ever since Dad gave me my first joystick (Thrustmaster).

[Hippo]

yarr, mine has the trigger, the buton right on top where your thumb sits, a button to the right of that button, and a button on the side sortof above and to the right of the trigger... Makes switching weapons VERY easy...


And no, he didn't edit that in It'd say so if he did...

[redsniper]

I've used a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Pro for many years now and it still works wonderfully. I would also recommend NOT getting a Freedom 2.4 since I tried one and didn't like it. It wouldn't stay flat on the table very well, kept tipping over when I moved the stick, plus you have to change the batteries in it.

[KappaWing]

Yeah, it does munch through those batteries pretty fast...

[Cobra]

use energizer e2's.

[EtherShock]

Originally posted by Getter Robo G
I got the logitech wingman extreme digital 2 years  ago for like 40 bucks I am sure it's cheaper now (has USB adapter)

I have a Logitech Wingman Digital 3D. It is so old it has a gameport (but comes with a USB adapter, thank goodness)! I've got this thing before the new millennium, and it still works! I'm starting to have trouble with it, but I think it just needs to be opened up and have the dust blown out. When I got it, it was probably a medium purchase. They sell it under the name Robo G said. It has seven buttons, an 8-way hat switch, throttle control, and stick twist function for banking. It has a big footprint though, but on the bright side, it doesn't move. I find however that mine works better in Freespace without actually running the Wingman software. I have no idea how Logitech sticks are today, but I've certainly got my money's worth out of this one. *looks at stick waiting for it to explode*

I'd like to get pedals someday for banking so it's really like I'm flying. That would be awesome.

I'd suggest doing some research before getting anything. I'm sure the people here have more valuable advice to bestow.

Edit: Just checked the Logitech site, this is the force feedback model, might set you back more than you want. The affordable model looks completely different and sports more buttons. Hmm, Logitech getting lazy now?

[Cobra]

Logitech Extreme 3D

the joystick i was talking about. it's the absolute best.

and it's as close to a sidewinder as any joystick will ever be.

[BlackDove]

Yeah, that's the second best joystick around.

Thiiiiiiird actually.

No, fourth.

[phreak]

Originally posted by Raa
Anywho, lately I've been using an XBox controller. I used to play keyboard, but I've found my skill has gone up with the XBC
 

excuse my ignorance, but where do XBCs plug into the PC?

[Cobra]

Manipulating wires.