[Carl]

They could have just moved it away from the jump node. Silly command, always with the explosions


I'm right though, right?

[Setekh]

Well, it might depend on the mobility of the device. What exactly is holding it in place as it spins? Maybe it wouldn't have been quite that simple. Also, Command is silly.

[Carl]

unless it's somehow stuck to the node, you could just hook some cables up to it and tow it away. that would be easier, safer, and cheaper than using a giant bomb.

[Liberator]

Those components are huge, crusier and corvette sized.  Given that and the fact that they are moving faster than a Horus at full burners...moving them would be problematic at best.

[Carl]

or, hey, here's another idea: turn it off.

[Ghost]

Hmmmm.....here's why they did it: They wanted to show off a GIANT EFFING EXPLOSION,  which happened to be pretty damn cool back in the day. The Vanilla shockwaves no longer are as cool as the 3d thingamajig. And yes, you do have to factor in the logistics of moving a giant thing like that.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Liberator
Those components are huge, crusier and corvette sized.  Given that and the fact that they are moving faster than a Horus at full burners...moving them would be problematic at best.

if you hook up cables to each of the pieces and tow them perpendicular to the rotation plane (in the direction of the axis) then the matter is quite simple.

[Goober5000]

If the Knossos worked anything like theoretical wormhole portals, then moving the Knossos would move the jump node right along with it.

Of course, they could simply have collapsed the Capella-Gamma Draconis node when destroying the Knossos didn't work.

[Ghost]

Well, Goob, if the node moves... here's an idea: couldn't they have..well, ****, different idea. Is it possible to tow the thing inside another subspace node? Those Shivan bastards would never know what hit them.

Or hell, tow it inside itself? That ones a little less likely, but what the hell.

[Taristin]

Nah. All they needed to do was pull the knossos into the sun! Let the shivans experience nuclear fission first hand!

[Carl]

sun = nuclear fusion.

[Carl]

Originally posted by Goober5000
If the Knossos worked anything like theoretical wormhole portals, then moving the Knossos would move the jump node right along with it.

but remember that the knossos didn't create the node, it stablized it.

Originally posted by Ghost
Is it possible to tow the thing inside another subspace node?

a subspace node inside subspace? if you went into the node then you would have subspace inside other subspace! would that even work?

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Carl
sun = nuclear fusion.

One or the other. It was a 50-50 guess for me

[Ghost]

Carl: that was the entire point of my question. It boggles the mind, doesn't it? The very idea of subspace is weird enough, but... Dimensions within dimensions within dimensions. Bizarre.

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by Carl
but remember that the knossos didn't create the node, it stablized it.

Doesn't matter.  If the Knossos is exercising any sort of control over the node, then the node should move toward the Knossos.  It wants to seek its lowest energy state.

And even if it didn't, the Knossos would be designed to hold a node in place anyway.  The reason is because it's extremely unlikely that subspace nodes never move of their own accord over the course of their entire lifetime.  Gravitational perturbations from comets, interstellar dust, orbit around the sun, etc. should cause them to move just like any other wormhole, natural or artificial.  So a node is going to drift around the solar system.

The Knossos is going to drift around too, for the same reason - but they're probably not going to drift along the same path.  So if the node doesn't seek the Knossos of its own accord, it's going to drift out of range and destabilize.  For the Knossos to stay near the node for a long period of time, it has to move with the node or move the node with it.  Since the Knossos has no apparent means of propulsion, the conclusion is that it holds the node in place.

So, whether by nature or by design, the node must stay with the Knossos.

[Liberator]

It seems likely a Subspace Node would only occur at the LaGrangian points for the System.  Hence why each system only has 1 or 2, sometimes 3 at the outside.  These points move in relation to the gravity fields creating them.  I'd just hate to have to calculate the L-points for as complex a thing as a star system.

[Carl]

Goober, if that is true then the GTVA should build knossos's around every GTVA controlled node, and move them closer to each other so those escort missions aren't so darned long.

[EtherShock]

Originally posted by Liberator
Those components are huge, crusier and corvette sized.  Given that and the fact that they are moving faster than a Horus at full burners...moving them would be problematic at best.

Then how did it get there? The Ancients must've had a way to move it or take it apart. Ehh, the GTVA could just uncover the solution like they did during the Great War.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by EtherShock

Then how did it get there? The Ancients must've had a way to move it or take it apart. Ehh, the GTVA could just uncover the solution like they did during the Great War.

The Ancients built the thing, remember?  They would be able to control, transport, switch on, switch off etc the knossos device....the Ancients were clearly a lot more advanced than the GTVA (knossos, subspace tracking, vast empire).

[Ghost]

No shields, though. And before you yell at me that that was Shivan technology, read the tech description for MX-50. There was a shielding prototype at Ross 128.