[Deepblue]

When specs are better:

2 types of Xbox Live:
Xbox Live Silver (no subscription required)
Xbox Live Gold (subscription benefits)

Features for Gold service
(S) Also for Silver
(O) Also for Offline

- Seamless transition to Xbox Live account from Xbox to Xbox 360
- Access to MMOs (additional fees may apply) (S)
- Free Xbox Live weekends (S)
- Multiplayer online gameplay
- Avatar for gamer profile(S)(O)
- Motto for gamer profile (S)(O)
- Personalized look for Xbox System Guide (S)(O)
- Offline achievments (S)(O)
- Online achievements (S)
- Access to other players' Gamer cards via Live (S)
- Cumulative gamer score (S)(O)
- Location/language profile (S)(O)
- Reputation (S)
- Enahnced matchmaking using above
- Skill level matchmaking
- Gameplay style profile (casual, competitive, etc.)
- Recent players list (S)
- Free and premium download game content(S)
- Free and premium downloadable movies, music, tv (S)
- Downloadable demos/trailers (S)
- Microtransactions (S)
- Custom playlist in every game (S)(O)
- Play music from portable devices (S)(O)
- View images from digital camera (S)(O)
- Strem media from Windows XP (S)(O)
- Interactive screen savers (S)(O)
- Track info for CDs (S) (O)
- Communication with voice, video or text (S)

The Hardware:
1. Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD
2. All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
3. Customizable face plates to change appearance *(WHOOO!)*
4. 3 USB 2.0 ports
5. Support for 4 wireless controllers
6. Detachable 20GB drive
7. Wi-Fi ready

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
- 3 symmetrical cores at 3.2 GHz each
- 2 hardware threads per core
- 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core
- 1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance
- 9 billion dots per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
- 500 MNz
- 10 MB embedded DRAM
- 48-way parallel floating-point shader pipelines
- unified shader architecture

Memory
-512 MB GDDR3 RAM
- 700 MNz DDR

Memory Bandwidth
- 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
- 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
- 21.6 GB/s frontside bus

Audio
- Mulitchannel surround sond output
- Supports 48khz 16-bit audio
- 320 independent decompression channels
- 32 bit processing
- 256+ audio channels


To sum up the important stuff regarding XBL:

There will be two versions of Xbox Live. Silver is free (everyone gets it), and Gold is a paid subscription, like the current XBL. It looks like Xbox Live will be free on the weekends for everyone; Gold members will get it all the time, obviously. Current Xbox Live accounts will carry over to the 360 and become Gold Xbox Live accounts. Both Gold and Silver members will be able to download demos, trailers, and other content through XBL.

This info seems pretty legit, and some insiders have confirmed that this is indeed a real leak. At this rate, you have to wonder if Microsoft will have anything left to reveal at the MTV unveiling on May 12.

[Deepblue]

Keep in mind these are not official and may not be the specs of the final product.

EDIT:

Things that stand out to me:

-Wi-Fi ready... hehe...
-Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD
-All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
-Customizable face plates to change appearance *(WHOOO!)*
-Play music from portable devices (S)(O) *YES!!!*
-Support for 4 wireless controllers
-3 USB 2.0 ports
-Custom playlist in every game (S)(O)

[Carl]

what's the processor speed?

[Anaz]

Meganertz?

[Deepblue]

Okay, since no one seems to be interested yet...

Testimony from a guy that was at the reveal party on the Gamespot forums:

i guess its ok for us to talk about the mtv show now??  
akuma303x
Level 8
Quad Damage
Posts: 1337

 
 but im not sure? so ill be on the next 15 miinuites or so. any questions? i dont think the agreement matters anymore. all the info is online anyway. so yes i was there. it rocked. 360 is way more powerful then you guys are thinknig. ok it looks better then most you guys think. thats what i ment.

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jasonw14 wrote:
what are the graphics like in the games and how does the conroller feel?
the graphics give that feeling of excitment again. honestly they made my heart jump. the first game they allowed us to test was pdo. no jaggies, no load time, textures was soo amazing you could go up to an industrial beam, as your looking at it, the paints chippin off, the bolts are really there, rust even looks real. everything is 3-d. no flat surfaces here. and it has a much cleaner look than xbox. i mean the way 3-d objects look. like grass. it is grass. each blade. but my favorite was a movie clip of elder scrolls. just the pure size of that game will change the way you feel about game worlds. kameo is also looking better. how ever it still has that cartoony look, but more like a cg on a computer. the controller feels like the controller s. the main difference is the smooth face. its real smooth feeling. it gives it a grip feeling. a real good grip. best part though, the controllers from the 360 are a little heavier feeling then the s type. and no the xboxlogo doenst move. its just on the controller.

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Sicknic wrote:
What are the extra features, like streaming music & movies on a wireless network to your xbox? What will xbox live be like?
they only showed us the basic model. they then showed video of the 360 hd edition. how ever i did pick up on one thing the guy givin us a speech had said, the xbox 360 can play xbox 1 games at a higher resolution. i believe he said 720 standard for older games played through the 360. but it was not quiet in that place. ever. even when the moments of revealing something new came, everyone just kept playing games, and talking about how they cant believe they are playing a game that looks like this.

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ZimpanX wrote:
akuma303x wrote:
but im not sure? so ill be on the next 15 miinuites or so. any questions? i dont think the agreement matters anymore. all the info is online anyway. so yes i was there. it rocked. 360 is way more powerful then you guys are thinknig. ok it looks better then most you guys think. thats what i ment.


ok that's cool and I hope you'r not lying about having been there so 3 questions

1. Is there a HDD
2. Is the processor more or less than 4 Ghz
3. Will it be relaesed in different colors

 
1. it is an option. yes. we only got to play basic models. none had memory units attached.

2.the processors are not 4 ghz. none ever add up to it either. each one instead runs a differnt part of the system at 3ghz. but ill tell you this. no load times. ever. and the few developers who spoke, said the set-up is perfect for games. they never mentioned cell, but they said the 360 has all the power the nex-gen needs. and more! speecifically the japanese developers. they think the 360 has more power than they felt the nex-gen would. that got me really exited.

3.they are customizable. but the show only had a white or pearl, colored xbox. and it never turned green from the side. thats wrong. but it looks so good up close, you wont care. i swear it.

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Sicknic wrote:
akuma303x wrote:
Sicknic wrote:
What are the extra features, like streaming music & movies on a wireless network to your xbox? What will xbox live be like?
they only showed us the basic model. they then showed video of the 360 hd edition. how ever i did pick up on one thing the guy givin us a speech had said, the xbox 360 can play xbox 1 games at a higher resolution. i believe he said 720 standard for older games played through the 360. but it was not quiet in that place. ever. even when the moments of revealing something new came, everyone just kept playing games, and talking about how they cant believe they are playing a game that looks like this.



Sounds pretty damn sweet, thanks for the info. How was the wireless controllers? Were they as responsive as wired ones?
 
yes they are !!!!!!! i love the new controllers. it seems ms spent of money perfecting them. and the usb on the bottom, that is intresting. imagine downloading a combo set for a character and puting them right into your cntroller. thats onna be a cool feature.

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scott_the_man wrote:
i know its not about the xbox but how you get in there
 
i own a gamespot store in denver. they sent me an inventtation via e-mail. im also a tester for live. but my biggest connect is my brother. he is a representative for ms japan.

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well i gotta go attend to my store. but believe the stuff online, cause thats what we got to see. the show rocked but not everything was revealed there. so dont let people tell you it was. the system specs. was not. but yes thatt is the 360 that was at the show. i am confiming it for you guys. that pic is the real deal. the system is smaller than xbox. no its not as small as the ps2. yes it's heavy! the color is white. not with green flakes or any of that stuff. the communicator looked the same, but the start up screen will seem familiar. this is it girls and boys. ive seen it. ive played it. im still drooling for one. my # 1 wish list item is the 360. and very , very soon. it will be yours too.

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sharmarke wrote:
holy cow that's sounds awesome but were u really there (i'll believe what ever you say)

questions

1. Do you think the xbox 360 would be able to play cut scene kind of graphics, like final fantasy kind of cut scenes.

2. about tivio

3.dvd burner, is there gonna be one.

4.the price

5. wireless controllers can it support up to 4 controllers and do you have to replace the batteries or does it come with rechargable thing

6. can it support xbox controllers

7. were the graphics better than the half life 2 or do you think it is capable of doing way better than half life 2

8. could you rewind back time and take me with you.

 
hey dont worrie it's cool, id be skeptical too. but i really did go to that taping. and it really was there!

1. - yes.

2. yes. they have a tivo function in the high model. but i wont ever use it.

3. yes the high model had a burner as well. not to mention a software package to go with it. but again in the high model.

4. they never said during the taping. and if they did. i must of been whooping some aszes in pdo at the time ! butt i never heard one.

5. the controllers are rechargable.

6. it has one controller port in back for older controllers. but just one.

7. yes. i think many 360 games will set standards in graphics. hl2 is pretty. but i seen games that beat it.

8. i wish. but id rather forward through time so i could own the damn thing !!!!!!!!!!!

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orbital123 wrote:
I am pretty sure you shouldn't be talking about anything you say in terms of features or the actual machine itself until thursday when the show airs. don't screw yourself over...

butt every site has broken so much already. maybe your right though. maybe i should chill.

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akuma303x wrote:
orbital123 wrote:
I am pretty sure you shouldn't be talking about anything you say in terms of features or the actual machine itself until thursday when the show airs. don't screw yourself over...
butt every site has broken so much already. maybe your right though. maybe i should chill.


well guys im sorry i gotta go. if i get in trouble it was worth it. but i hope i didnt give anything important away. just know i love 360. developers love 360. the celebs all loved it. it will not be the punk nex-gen. it is powerful, sleek, and sexy!!!!!! and the system feels like a true nex-gen. it is way better than the xbox. way!!!!!!! if you guys run into a guy named deaddarth.( or something like that) he comes in here now and then. ( mostly downing sony fans in sw) ill tell you a secret. he is a high ranked ms official who gets a kick out of conversating with the fans in here. he got me in here. he has all the info not shown. and i heard he is coming today to 360 to have the same converssation with you guys as i did. but he has way more info!!!!! so look outt for hiim ok. ill be back after my store closes. if he's not here by then , ill bring him in here. so check back here tonight around 9pm mt. i think the insiders are gonna bring you guys a treat !

Sounds neat.

[Deepblue]

Originally posted by Anaz
Meganertz?

It was posted on a forum... People have an inclination to mispell things on the internet...

[Rictor]

Yeah. but it's mentioned in a few places on the spec sheet, and it's the same "mistake" throughout, which means it's intentional.

I'm still of the opinion that the images are fakes, leaked by MS to throw people off.

[Kamikaze]

I'm skeptical about this bit:

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
- 3 symmetrical cores at 3.2 GHz each
- 2 hardware threads per core
- 1 VMX-128 vector unit per core
- 1 MB L2 cache

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Rictor
Yeah. but it's mentioned in a few places on the spec sheet, and it's the same "mistake" throughout, which means it's intentional.

I'm still of the opinion that the images are fakes, leaked by MS to throw people off.

You give them too much credit.

[Rictor]

Probably. When in doubt, I always tend to over-estimated people rather than under-estimate them, which most of the time isn't really all that smart, or accurate.

[Deepblue]

We'll see tonight...

BTW, that guy who leaked all the info posted above aparently got a warning letter from MS for breaking a non-disclosure agreement.

[Krackers87]

Intrested by this? HA!

I just creamed my pants after reading that.

[Deepblue]

Hehe, the leaks keep flowing.



I think PGR3 is going to be a launch title... But it may just be me...


Halo 3!!! WHOORAAHH!!! (can't read German(?) so I don't know what it has to say about it)

Mmmmmm.... Ghost Recon 3... in 16:9...

[Deepblue]

Wait a second... I think that says Halo 3 is slated for a 2005 release.... MOMMAA!!!! *celebrates ecstatically*

[Deepblue]

Oop, another thing!

It’ll be out in less than 6 months (i.e. before November).


SWEEEET!!!!

[Krackers87]

Not to burst your bubble, but i seriously doubt it.

[adwight]

I still think that Revolution is going to kick this XBOX 360's ass.  All of those incentives with subscription with XBOX?  Free with Revolution baby.  That thing is going to be amazing.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by adwight
I still think that Revolution is going to kick this XBOX 360's ass.  All of those incentives with subscription with XBOX?  Free with Revolution baby.  That thing is going to be amazing.

Specs are impressive for the Revolution, despite it being regarded as the least powerful of the 3 next gen; apparently leaked hardware details give it 4 * 2.5GHz (IBM custom) G5 cores, each with 128Kb L1 and 512Kb L2 cache, and a dual core ATI RN520 GPU (16MB DRAM).

 Combined with rumoured features like stereoscopic vision (big maybe on that), revolutionary touch sensitive / touchpad based wireless controllers, the ability to act as a wireless router for DS internet gaming as well as free Rev online gaming and maybe even voice controls..... it's an interesting sounding machine to say the least.  Only thing is whether the mid 2006 date is true; often it's not being the best but the first that counts.

[Deepblue]

Um, Xbox already has voice controls, pressure sensitive controls...

And there will be free online gaming for the Xbox 360...

Though 4 2.5GHz G5 cores does sound nice.

[Rictor]

3 x 3.2Ghz processors for the Xbox360, and that's the best they can do?

The Xbox1 is running at 733Mhz, and if you can get the quality seen in games like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and Chronicles of Riddick out of that, well I expected Spirits Within-like graphics, since they have at least 5-6 times the hardware of the original.