[CP5670]

Has anyone ever tried attacking a hostile Colossus? This thread has basically centered around its anti-capital ship abilities, but it would be interesting to know how well it does against fighters. The Sathanas isn't all that great against fighters, relatively speaking. None of the Shivan ships are, for that matter.

There are no tactical short jumps in Fs as I recall....

It sort of happens at the point where the Colossus gets destroyed. The SJD Sathanas 17 jumps out a few seconds before the SJ Sathanas comes out close to the Colossus, so it's a fair bet that they are supposed to be the same ship.

You know, the last time I played that mission, I fired a few pot shots at the Colossus hoping that I would get the kill since the rest of the damage is all done by beams. Unfortunately it doesn't award you kills for friendly ships like that.

[BlueFlames]

Since you've obviously extracted the mission to look at it in FRED2, you could always add and event to change the Colossus' IFF as its hull integrity drops.    Set its IFF to neutral, and tick the 'all teams at war' box, and the Sathanas should finish it off, while you whore all the points.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by CP5670
It sort of happens at the point where the Colossus gets destroyed. The SJD Sathanas 17 jumps out a few seconds before the SJ Sathanas comes out close to the Colossus, so it's a fair bet that they are supposed to be the same ship.

I don't think that can be counted as a tactical jump as the two ships are 115km apart measuring in FRED and are probably actually further away in terms of actual distance seeing as how the Saths are described as having taken up position surrounding Capella it's doubtful that they would actually be that close to the Colossus.

[TrashMan]

Damn collie doesn't fire at all.. Is it set to Play Dead when the Sath arrives or something? Or is it just the short range of it's beams?

[Nuclear1]

I think it is. The captain said that he was trying to hold off the Sathanas until the Bastion got through to the node, and I'm guessing playing possum does just that.

[FireCrack]

the best reason to love the collie...

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,32591.0.html


How's that goiong Karma?

[psycho_fergo]

hmm, the C is good, but i really do wish that someone would make a campaign about the C's opperations. you know, a different perspective as a pilot based on the C

PLEAAAAAAASe someone do this, it would be awesome

also about the bearbating mission, i have finnished that with all objectives done (all 4 beams, flacks and bonouse rear beam) and also..just to rub it in, i did it on insane it took me maybe 8 times to do it, but i did. its hard, but after a while you kind get used to it. plus i took some pointers of how i think goob did it. i think it was him who did the in game video of him doing it on medium.

i would do an ingame video to show u all, but i dunno something.. does it slow down ur computer at all? because i get slow FPS normally...ive got a pretty crappy computer..

the trick is to start with the closest turret, then after u take out the 2nd, do the flack, then order your wingmates to take out the rear beam
then take out the other 2 beams

if you have time, which sometimes you do, go for the rear beam yourself because your wingmates are quite dumb

anyway..thats all ive got to say...

p.s. ive finnished the game many times on insane. after about 10 times, you kinda get used to it. i find medium a little harder, because the enemy use a different tactic/wepons thingo on you and im so used to going crazy on insane, i dont know how to cope...

insane admeral psycho, signing off

[karajorma]

Originally posted by psycho_fergo
hmm, the C is good, but i really do wish that someone would make a campaign about the C's opperations. you know, a different perspective as a pilot based on the C

PLEAAAAAAASe someone do this, it would be awesome

I've been toying with the idea for some time actually. I keep trying to convince other people but no one seems interested. Maybe once Seeds Of Rebellion is done

[Mongoose]

*raises hand wildly in a violent display of interest*

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by psycho_fergo
hmm, the C is good, but i really do wish that someone would make a campaign about the C's opperations. you know, a different perspective as a pilot based on the C

I imagine it'd be a lot of staring at a hangar bay door.

"No!! Nobody gets to attack the Sathanas except Alpha wing!!"

"Sorry, we're only going to be deploying 2 of you 60 fighter wings to defend the Knossos"

"Oops, the hangar bay door controls are jammed again. No reason to be alarm-wait, what the hell is that? Oh my God! It's another Sathanas! We're all going to die! Oh, is this thing still-?"

That being said it would be interesting if you could find an excuse to have the player not sit in the Collie for 90% of the time.

[karajorma]

The entire NTF arse-kicking is never seen in-game as the player is busy elsewhere. Seeing as how the Colossus and it's battlegroup singlehandedly defeated the entire NTF I think that there's lots of scope for a bunch of strike missions with some big exploding capships

[TrashMan]

I'll prolly put a Collie mission or two in my campaign...

Some NTF as kicikng..maby some shivan ass kicking..

that said, it is never specificly mentioned that hte Collie destroyed only one sath, yes?
I mena, the sthanases were going around he sun while hte lesser sivan hips fought - that is implied.

It could be a stretch if I make it fight another sath..

EDIT: If a cille jumps in beside a sath, it's still dead. by matching it's speed and heading it makes it impossible for hte Sath to turn around..

I tested a few missions like that with tow orions chasing after the sath and a collie chasing after the sath - sath allways get's roasted

[Fenrir]

It would be a huge stretch, considering all the evidence against it. And I doubt I'm not the only one tired of "It wasn't specifically stated not to  have happened, therefore it did happen!!1!" After all, it was never specifically stated that Command, in fact, did not have a gargantuan Bosch Beer party with the Shivans and the destruction of Capella was a mere accident caused by a drunken Shivan hitting the wrong button.

[Nuclear1]

But don't you think Command would've mentioned at least a little something about the Colossus attacking another Sath, a situation which previously involved two whole sorties over?

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by karajorma
The entire NTF arse-kicking is never seen in-game as the player is busy elsewhere. Seeing as how the Colossus and it's battlegroup singlehandedly defeated the entire NTF I think that there's lots of scope for a bunch of strike missions with some big exploding capships

Gah!

Come... *smack* ...join... *smack* ...the FSU! *wet trout smack*

[TrashMan]

You're right..It will strictly be Demon and Ravana kicking during the Capealla engagements

[Mongoose]

Originally posted by Fenrir
It would be a huge stretch, considering all the evidence against it. And I doubt I'm not the only one tired of "It wasn't specifically stated not to  have happened, therefore it did happen!!1!" After all, it was never specifically stated that Command, in fact, did not have a gargantuan Bosch Beer party with the Shivans and the destruction of Capella was a mere accident caused by a drunken Shivan hitting the wrong button.

Do I smell DEM II?

[Galemp]

n00b! There will be no DEMII! If it's not by Goob, it's not DEMII! If one more n00b comes in here asking about DEMII I'm going to kill them! Read the FAQs!!

get it?

[Mongoose]

[Sandwich]

Err.... DEMII??