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Offline Sandwich

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Originally posted by Andreas
Episode 1 was childish, shiny **** a'la Disney. That really did it for me. After that, I really didn't bother with the second one, and I'm certainly not going to watch the third one either.


For what it's worth, Lucas was trying to depict the SW universe before the fall of the Republic and the rise of the Empire. It's supposed to be all shiny and clean. And from what I hear, that gets turned on its head in Ep3 - they're saying it's VERY dark.
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Finally, someone that understands. Sandwich hit the mark. That's what I was saying. You guys should read up on film. It's really interesting all the elements that going into one and how they can be used to convey a message.

This one is going to rock. I love dark movies, but not too dark. :yes: Batman Returns is a perfect example of too dark.

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Episode 2 just screened on the TV a couple of nights ago... reminding me just how bad some of the acting is in parts. :ick: I still enjoyed the movie for its fights and effects, though. I'll see episode 3 soon... lightsaber fights rock!

One thing I think we all love. :) I think George got the idea for lightsabers and the Jedi/Sith thing mostly from the legend of the samurai/martial arts. If you watch them, their styles definitely look like martial arts, and the saber kind of resembles a katana, never noticed that before. Watching them fight is like watching ballet or some beautiful dance, not as clumsy or random as a blaster. :p

 

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Finally, someone that understands. Sandwich hit the mark. That's what I was saying. You guys should read up on film. It's really interesting all the elements that going into one and how they can be used to convey a message.


Oh, don't get me wrong - I think that Episodes 1 & 2 are among the worst bits of film to emerge from Hollywood in a long time, excluding certain parts here and there. Their shiny is utterly CG-shiny, which is bad. I was just saying that I understood why they went in the general "shiny" direction to begin with. :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 
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Oh, I wasn't saying they were great.

I'm not too familar with CG like you renderers, so I don't really notice that stuff, but with a little experience I could.

 

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I like the CG...the models always looked fake to me.  But I understand the problems with both.
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Well, 3 hours and 25 minutes till I see the Israeli premiere of Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith. I'm excited; I rewatched Attack of the Clones yesterday with a couple of friends who had never seen it. We haven't laughed that hard in ages. I believe the most common utterance was "Oh my gosh, SOOOO bad!".

I can't imagine how Numero Tres can be any worse.

Oh, did I mention I'm seeing it with 14 other people, and that we have the whole center section of the very rearmost row in the theater (yes, you get assigned seating here...)? This is gonna be fun. :D
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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I could be in the cinema right now, watching that movie. Could someone please jump back in time for like two weeks and remind me to get some tickets? :rolleyes:
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MUHAHAHAH! I HAVE SEEN IT!!!!

Generally speaking, it's much improved over I and II. So much so that it compares to the original trilogy, although it does have some quite weak parts, which the original trilogy lack entirely (IMO). If I is a 2, II is a 3, and 4-6 are in the 8-10 range, then this is a 6.5 or 7.

The following is truly a spoiler; you have been warned:
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One major inconsistancy I noticed is that, according to Leia in ROTJ, she remembers her mother being very kind and beautiful. But since Padme dies right after childbirth, this becomes impossible.

Additionally, what's the deal with Obi-Wan being told to get in touch with Qui-Gon towards the end? Is this the first time the Jedi become aware that dead Jedi can communicate with the rest of the Jedi? It just seemed to me to be a very tacked-on bit, something Lucas just threw in there at the last moment because it hadn't been touched upon at all until that point. Bleh.

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Damn you and your "timezones..."

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I would've seen it like 10 hours ago if I didn't have to work :(
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*avoids spoilers*

I'm not ruining this one for myself. Gonna see it Friday or Saturday and know as little as possible going in.

REQUEST: please please please guys after you see it use spoiler tags for plot stuff!!
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:lol:
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Thanks Bob. :p

But I meant for bits of it that we don't necessarily know already. Like whatever Sandie put in spoiler tags.
Wash: This landing's gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: *shrug* "Oh God, oh God, we're all gonna die"?
Mal: This is the captain. We have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.

 
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For those who cannot go to the movie and see it, there´s a screener floating around with great quality. The only "if" is a time clock on the top of the screen. Since i won´t be able to catch it on the cinema, i´ll have to get this.
From what i´ve seen, this episode is the ONE!! Can´t miss it.
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Just got back from the theater... now theres this nasty taste in my mouth. Sigh

 
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I find your lack of plot disturbing Master Lucas. u_u

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Originally posted by Sandwich
One major inconsistancy I noticed is that, according to Leia in ROTJ, she remembers her mother being very kind and beautiful. But since Padme dies right after childbirth, this becomes impossible.

Leia was talking about her adoptive mother. She couldn't have possbily known Padme, since she died right after giving birth.
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Uh, oh...

Sounds bad...

*wonders if he should swear off the new stuff and stick to his *original edition* VHS tapes of 4-6*

 

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that movie was A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!

i can't fault one thing with the movie... they covered EVERYTHING; a SEAMLESS transition between Ep III and EP IV... beautiful movie.

 

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and the saber kind of resembles a katana, never noticed that before.




you're right... striking resemblance.

i always thought the lightsaber reminded me of a banana though... what do you think?


j/k ;)