[TopAce]

Originally posted by Nuke
it was something that i missed, starwars pioneered the concept of space fighters, it was sad to see them not used as much. they seemed to just show sceens of fighting but didnt show the use of any strategy....

Strategy? That word cannot be found in the Jedi Archives. Such word does not exist.

That said, I have to agree that we cannot see anyone thinking in that battle, except for the two Jedi who decide to land on Grievous' ship and rescue Palpatine.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
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Hell, it failed at being a full action movie. Anyone notice how the Battle of Coruscant just sort of dissappeared after Anakin lands the glowing red - turned steamy ship on the ever so convenient, yet questionable landing strip. (for all the space cruisers that taxi on wheels...) Opens the door, Obi Wan tells him he's a hero, he chills with the politicians...  no more Battle of Coruscant!

Seems it dissappeared along with any hope for a solid movie.

There was no more time available for that scene. A lot of questions were still needed to be answered and way too many events had to be shown.

[EDIT]Sorry, I forgot to cut/paste this post into my previous one.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Nuke

as for the thing with darth nihilus, i dont like the name they chose for the character, nihilisim isint about negitive value, its about the absence of value. which doesnt really fit in with the dark side. put it this way, you can use a single variable to determine good and bad with 0 being the line between them, nihilisim rejects that variable's existance. associating nihilisim with the dark siide violates the purpose of nihilisim.

Not if you use the definition "a revolutionary doctrine that advocates destruction of the social system for its own sake" for Nihilus, in which case it's quite apt; his purpose was the destruction of life.

Or the literal definition of "belief in nothing", which can be used to identify the concept of a character who places no value on life whatsoever, an effective black hole whose purpose is simply to destroy life.

[Flaser]

You didn't quite get the character.
Nihilus doesn't give **** about anything. If he were to live he would have shallowed *everything*.
His existance was about swallowing/destroying everything - and in the end all that would have been left is: nothing.

[Shrike]

Ep 3 was this year's bomb.  And I don't mean 'da bomb' either.

The battles were chaotic messes, the acting was lousy, the actual story was flimsy.. I shan't continue.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Nuke
it was something that i missed, starwars pioneered the concept of space fighters, it was sad to see them not used as much. they seemed to just show sceens of fighting but didnt show the use of any strategy....

I call bull****.

Buck Rogers had spacefighters long before star wars did.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Flaser
Nihilus doesn't give **** about anything. If he were to live he would have shallowed *everything*.
His existance was about swallowing/destroying everything - and in the end all that would have been left is: nothing.

Which is why he's my new personal Star Wars hero. Other than HK-47 that is...

[Liberator]

HK == Set us up the BOMB!!!

[Grey Wolf]

What did you just say, meatbag?

[Liberator]

I said HK-47 is T3H B0MBZ0R5!!!!!111111

[Grey Wolf]

HK-47: Is this the meatbag, meatbag?
Revan: Yeah, the one talking in 1337.
*HK-47 kills Liberator.
HK-47: Assasination successful, meatbag.
Grey Wolf: Here, Revan. Your payment for the kill.
*Grey Wolf tosses Revan a six-pack of Bosch Beer and a bag of Spacecrack

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by TopAce


There was no more time available for that scene. A lot of questions were still needed to be answered and way too many events had to be shown.
 

My point exactly. Just because it is the final Star Wars doesn't exempt it from the requirements of an at least solid movie. If you need time to answer questions, try making the movie longer, or better yet, answer the questions in a more concise and accurate manner. Cutting things off and assuming the audience will assume portions of your story doesn't make a good movie by a long shot, regardless of its heritage.

[TopAce]

I don't know why, but Lucas did not want the movie to exceed a two-hour playtime. Don't ask why, I don't agree with this either. Let's accept it as it is.

[Nuke]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Not if you use the definition "a revolutionary doctrine that advocates destruction of the social system for its own sake" for Nihilus, in which case it's quite apt; his purpose was the destruction of life.

Or the literal definition of "belief in nothing", which can be used to identify the concept of a character who places no value on life whatsoever, an effective black hole whose purpose is simply to destroy life.

but that is the sterotypical definition of nihilisim which is quite often misrepresented as negative. thats like saying all christians burn pagans, and kill jews.

[NeoHunter]

Originally posted by Knight Templar


This is exactly why this movie sucked.

Hell, it failed at being a full action movie. Anyone notice how the Battle of Coruscant just sort of dissappeared after Anakin lands the glowing red - turned steamy ship on the ever so convenient, yet questionable landing strip. (for all the space cruisers that taxi on wheels...) Opens the door, Obi Wan tells him he's a hero, he chills with the politicians...  no more Battle of Coruscant!

Seems it dissappeared along with any hope for a solid movie.

Well, one would have to guess that with the destruction of General Grievious' ship and the sudden arrival of more ships with Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker, the tide of the battle turned.

Anyway, the main objective of the Seperatists' attack on Coruscant was to kidnap Palpatine only. Not an invasion of it.

[EtherShock]

Ah, but leaving the audience to assume stuff like that looks careless and sloppy, as opposed to most of the questions he did answer, which definitely could've been left up to interpretation.

Originally posted by TopAce
I don't know why, but Lucas did not want the movie to exceed a two-hour playtime. Don't ask why, I don't agree with this either. Let's accept it as it is.

I thought it was 2 1/2 hours long? Sometimes you need to break the constaints of time. It's not like it would've been three hours long.

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Just because it is the final Star Wars doesn't exempt it from the requirements of an at least solid movie. If you need time to answer questions, try making the movie longer, or better yet, answer the questions in a more concise and accurate manner. Cutting things off and assuming the audience will assume portions of your story doesn't make a good movie by a long shot, regardless of its heritage.

[Hippo]

Originally posted by Nuke
im suprised obi wan didnt use the force to do away with his bug problem. jedi can pick up rocks and such why not stupid robo bugs.

That would be the path to the dark side...

[Flipside]

Not sure, that's more a case of demolition than murder, depending on your stance regarding Droid Rights

Would have made for a shorter, more boring movie though

[Nuke]

hes not really harming the bugs, just removing them from his hull.

[Corsair]

And anyway, it's self-defense. Same principle applies to when he uses the Force to throw down the Trade Federation droids during the fight scenes in both the first and third movies.