[aipz]

Theoretically you can simulate Dilgar War even now - for example I've substituted Vorlon ships for Dilgar (simply changed ship names and weapons in FRED- it works pretty well...

VE Fighter - Thorun Dartfighter
VE Transport - Dilgar Scoutship/Freighter
VE Cruiser - small warship?
DL Sekhmet is the only one true Dilgar that is currently available...

for the people you put Olympus Corvettes, Hyperions and Novas
Orion stations, gun turrets and civilian craft - the fighter is Aurora Mk 1

LONAW is without any changes...

Of course you have to believe that Vorlons are Dilgars 

[Cavane]

Wouldn't there also be ships from other League worlds on your side?  And I actually just got done playing that mission, Red Dagger.  It works fine on 3.3.  I was pretty worried when the vorlon fighters appeared, glad you went ahead and altered the weapons, otherwise it would not have been pretty.

[ToecrusherHammerjaw]

Uh, is it just me, or do those Dilgar designs not look very.......Dilgar?  I mean, some of design details in them look foreign compared to the curvature of the Sekhmet.  And their hulls look different from the Sekhmet too.  I assume this is because they did not appear in the series, and were designed by people outside of the show?  Input, anyone?

[I_E_Maverick]

Uh, is it just me, or do those Dilgar designs not look very.......Dilgar?  I mean, some of design details in them look foreign compared to the curvature of the Sekhmet.  And their hulls look different from the Sekhmet too.  I assume this is because they did not appear in the series, and were designed by people outside of the show?  Input, anyone?

i agree on that. that is a reason i myself wouldnt want to see them ingame, cause they dont look dilgar like. those panels on one of the ships looks more like ea ship design.

but there are several other aog designs that are already or will be ingame. the falkosi for example is one of them. also the avenger, poseidon, bintak, balvarin and so on...

[madaboutgames]

Just sent you an e-mail mav with the rst of the thirdspace models

Base
Shuttle
Large Transport
Mine
Defence Platform

[I_E_Maverick]

got them and had a look.
first: what software are you using to create these meshes?
second: most of them still use way too much polys. if they are just meant to be sketches ok, but i cant really work with them for the game.
third: the designs theirself are pretty cool, but i think they dont look like thirdspace designs. the thirdspace aliens had a very organic looking design with small tech pieces on the fighter. i dont see this in your designs. i know it is hard to design, but you should put some more work into the designs. the only thing that was ok with either polycount and design was the mine.

if you want to work more closely you should really get some messanger like icq so that we can exchange these things quicker.

[madaboutgames]

Too many restriction on work internet to use any type of messenger.  Have to com through pm.

[mr.WHO]

http://www.agentsofgaming.com/b5wstock.htm

Balvarin looks kickass, I heard that Octurion will be ingame as well, what about the rest of Centauri stuff?

...and Brakiri stuff?

namely :

BW-277 Brakiri Tashkat Advanced Cruiser
BW-278 Brakiri Falkosi Light Fighter (3)
BW-279 Brakiri Halik Fighter-Killer
BW-280 Brakiri Ikorta Light Assault Cruiser
BW-281 Brakiri Brokados Battle Carrier

I dunno why but I like Brakiri stuff


Speaking of Dilgar Ships:
I thought that one ship that is already made is a new/modern Dilgar ship with they most advance tech.
Those in that page looks like old Dilgar ships (if you texture them in right way), c'mon, Compare Hyperion to Warlock or Poseidon and you will see that they are quite diffrend.

[Prophet]

No such thing as modern Dilgari ship. Not in canon anyway. I am almost saying that the Dilgari ship that is done, is canon. But I don't remember if it really is. But it is the most canon of them semi-canon/non-canon Dilgari. I think.

And the AOG ships look old because, well they are pieces of plastic (or whatever they are). I think.

**** I'm so tired. I'm sure the concept summer and winter times was invented solely to make my life even more miserable... 

[0rph3u5]

...and Brakiri stuff?

namely :

BW-277 Brakiri Tashkat Advanced Cruiser
BW-278 Brakiri Falkosi Light Fighter (3)
BW-279 Brakiri Halik Fighter-Killer
BW-280 Brakiri Ikorta Light Assault Cruiser
BW-281 Brakiri Brokados Battle Carrier

I don't like the idea of setting up a huge brakiri military... the brakiri are traders; a fighter (Falkosi) and large freighter/light cruiser (Avioki) should do it for them...

To the dilgar:
Non their ships was ever in the show. All of their ships ever seen are ... well non-canon...
BUT (you should always be on the watch for this little word)
please take a look at the sources of this one:
http://www.b5tech.com/miscracesgroups/Dilgar/dilgarcruiser.html
"our" dilgar hcruiser was appearently made for "Into the Fire"... do I smell some very offical support to the design???

[IPAndrews]

I like the look of the Brakiri ships too but I'm with Orpheus when it comes to the Brakiri having a big military. For that reason I would recommend that Brakiri warships are a very low priority for the team. A don't know if the Sekhmet is any more canon than AOG's Dilgar stuff. The look is certainly very different so you would have to ditch the Sekhmet if you wanted to use the AOG designs.

[I_E_Maverick]

about the brakiri ships, the falkosi is finished and just needs to be put into game, she nearly made it into 3.3 but weakened on the finish line
the tashkat is modeled and needs textures, but i found out that the model isnt that good (though it was done by me ) so i will do it again.
i dont the other 3 that you were talking about, but maybe i can do them too.

about the dilgar: i wouldnt want them in tbp as a full race, cause they are wiped out! i mean we dont do any marcab ships, do we? so, no dilgar ships by me. i think for some special missions the dilgar cruiser is more than enough.
also about the similarity between hyperion and warlock, i think there are far more similarities between them than between the sekhmet and the aog designs.

[Cavane]

Indeed, the Sehkmet, which is the closest thing we have to canon, is very rounded, smooth, and very... yellow.  The ship models above look more like something the EA would build.  Even if the texture was changed to make them look more in the style of the Sehkmet, they are too rigid, if you ask me.  Compare them to the cruiser which looks almost organic, (which is why Vorlon ships were the best choice to use as fighter models) and it doesn't really add up.  Most of the ships that we see most often in the series have some sort of recurring theme.  EA ships are long and skinny, Narn ships are wide and flat, Minbari ships look like fish, Centauri ships all have arches, etc.  I don't see any common theme between those models and the Sehkmet.

[GT-Keravnos]

about the brakiri ships, the falkosi is finished and just needs to be put into game, she nearly made it into 3.3 but weakened on the finish line
the tashkat is modeled and needs textures, but i found out that the model isnt that good (though it was done by me ) so i will do it again.
i dont the other 3 that you were talking about, but maybe i can do them too.

about the dilgar: i wouldnt want them in tbp as a full race, cause they are wiped out! i mean we dont do any marcab ships, do we? so, no dilgar ships by me. i think for some special missions the dilgar cruiser is more than enough.
also about the similarity between hyperion and warlock, i think there are far more similarities between them than between the sekhmet and the aog designs.

Ok, understood and appreciated, I just had to speak my mind much like you speak yours. I think AOG is a good source of ideas, and that modders should at least know what is out there. What, of those you do, is yours to choose. Indeed those Brakiri are nice, and if those ships DO make it in, even if they are a trader (mostly) race, well,  there is always the Alliance to be considered. Imagine the fights where there are more than Terran or Minbari or Vorlon designs. That 's why we need them in.

If you feel so inclined, please do those brakiri.

[I_E_Maverick]

textured the 3rd space fighter, i used textures by Nadab Göksu, so credits to him!!
i hope you like it:

[ToecrusherHammerjaw]

    That's AWESOME. Keep it up, Mav.  Kudos to Nadab for those textures, as well.

[Whitelight]

  Looking good mav, looking good 

[I_E_Maverick]

ok, another "new" model. i textured the brakiri tashkat, a aog design. hope you like it too...

[Col. Fishguts]

Nice That's actually one of the better AoG designs.

[madaboutgames]

Bob on, and it looks Brakiri