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on: October 31, 2001, 06:48:00 am
I've remade the FS node map in full 3D, peoples.   The XY positions of the systems were calculated using the standard 2D map, but I then repositioned the systems along the Z axis according to how they are displayed in some of the command breifings. I've even included miniature jumpnode objects at the ends of all the intersystem subspace routes, and 3D labels for all the systems.  

The catch is that it is all in Rhino format. This means that I can't apply things like the jumpnode objects rendering in wireframe only, or that the system spheres render tgeir wireframes along with their surfaces, etc.

Anyways, I think this could really enhance the work of anyone doing command breifings and the like. I'll put it up for download (in Rhino's .3DM format, which 3D Exploration supports) in a few hours.

Enjoy!  

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #1 on: October 31, 2001, 06:52:00 am
people could enjoy it even more if you posted it  
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Reply #2 on: October 31, 2001, 07:21:00 am
Correct!
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Reply #3 on: October 31, 2001, 07:22:00 am
 
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Originally posted by venom2506 at 4:52am:
people could enjoy it even more if you posted it  

 
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Originally posted by sandwich 4 minutes earlier:
I'll put it up for download (in Rhino's .3DM format, which 3D Exploration supports) in a few hours.

 

I'm uploading it now... 1mb RAR. I ain't going to provide a ZIP, since that is 2.2mb... :-/ (I'm on a modem...)



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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #4 on: October 31, 2001, 07:32:00 am
ARRRGH!! :-/

The place I was uploading it to informed me (after the upload had completed...     ) that they only allowed certain file types, among them .ZIP and .RAR. WTH?!?    

Ahhh, heck - I'll put it up on GeoCities...

EDIT: AAAGHHH! GeoCities doesn't allow RAR either. Ok, I renamed the file to 3d_nodemap.rar.zip and it seems to accept it. So don't forget to remove the ".ZIP" from the filename before you open it.

Download 3d_nodemap.rar.zip here.

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #5 on: October 31, 2001, 04:59:00 pm
I forgot: let me know what you think!  

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #6 on: October 31, 2001, 05:22:00 pm
you have to copy and paste the link into your browser, that link dont werk..   http://www.geocities.com/sandvich/fs2/files/3d_nodemap.rar.zip
 

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Reply #7 on: October 31, 2001, 05:32:00 pm
Good work, Sandwich! I coverted it to .3ds. I don't think I got the "lines" from each system. I probably did something wrong. Well, I'll just try to convert it again.

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Reply #8 on: October 31, 2001, 05:45:00 pm
gahhhh!!
my 3d Exploation demo expired!!!
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Reply #9 on: October 31, 2001, 05:49:00 pm
Hmmm... can you do an .ivr render? Seems that that would be much easier on those of us that don't have 3DX, since the plugin is pretty available and it's practically the same thing...
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Reply #10 on: October 31, 2001, 06:10:00 pm
Someone spent a whole hell of a lot more time on it than I did.  
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Reply #11 on: October 31, 2001, 06:38:00 pm
 
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Good work, Sandwich! I coverted it to .3ds. I don't think I got the "lines" from each system. I probably did something wrong. Well, I'll just try to convert it again.

I think I can help with that. Rhino can export to a number of different file formats, among them DXF, 3DS, etc. I've found that for making models for import into truespace, DXF woorks best. So here's the dialog box I get when I choose to export to DXF: (NOTE: this image probably won't work, would the powers that be here at HLP fix it?  

Anyway, tell me if you need/want any special options set there, and I'll convert and upload it.

 
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Hmmm... can you do an .ivr render? Seems that that would be much easier on those of us that don't have 3DX, since the plugin is pretty available and it's practically the same thing...

.IVR? Never heard of it, and besides, what's the point of doing a render of a thing like this? The whole point is that you can have it now in 3D -   already supplies the 2D version.

 
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Someone spent a whole hell of a lot more time on it than I did.    

Probably not. It took me an hour. In Rhino.  



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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
  

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Reply #12 on: October 31, 2001, 10:38:00 pm
I really wish I could see this 3D nodemap, but I have no idea which application I need to use to open it and view it.

I think I have to call on a good friend of mine here who can help me out...

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Reply #13 on: November 01, 2001, 06:26:00 am
yeah, could someone post a pic of it btw?
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Reply #14 on: November 01, 2001, 07:15:00 am
 
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I really wish I could see this 3D nodemap, but I have no idea which application I need to use to open it and view it.

I think I have to call on a good friend of mine here who can help me out...

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Well, if you have Rhino, open it in that.
If not, downlaod 3D Exploration and convert it to a format that you can use...
 

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Reply #15 on: November 01, 2001, 11:39:00 am
OY! The link isn't working! WTH???

Both links to the geocities page are down. Is this going to be remedied anytime soon?

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Reply #16 on: November 01, 2001, 03:58:00 pm
Send me a .dxf version and I'll show you why it's better. For now, all I'll say is it's compact, it works as a browser plugin, and that it isn't quite a 3D model, but it isn't exactly a standard render, either.  

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Reply #17 on: November 01, 2001, 04:51:00 pm
I've uploaded a DXF version of the nodemap, but the quality isn't as good as the Rhino one (spheres aren't spheres anymore...). Anyways, here's the link, and make sure you remove the .ZIP extension - the file is a RAR file!

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Reply #18 on: November 01, 2001, 04:58:00 pm
 
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yeah, could someone post a pic of it btw?

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Reply #19 on: November 01, 2001, 06:48:00 pm
There's not really anything to post a picture of - it looks like the node map.  

But in 3D.  

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
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