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Offline Kosh

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They are finding that any interface made between human and machine works only because the human brain is able to adapt to the outside signal. The machine itself is unable to work itself into the human brain.


Probably because our technology is so primitive.


But if you think about it, nueral interfaces in anything has huge potential.
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Groinal attachment? Lots of nerves lead down there. :D
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Offline Martinus

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Originally posted by Kosh


Probably because our technology is so primitive.


But if you think about it, nueral interfaces in anything has huge potential.

[color=66ff00]Yes, there are any number of problems inherent with placing a device inside the human body, particularly one that accepts electrical impulses. Obvious ones include the possibility of the materials interacting with the body chemistry, interception of erronious signals from surrounding nerves (you should see how much filtering and amplification goes into getting a good ECG signal), accurately placing a device, the longevity of the device should the power supply be inside the body...

It's a long and complicated series of small jumps but we're making startling progress given america's significant interest in the field.
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Originally posted by karajorma


Groinal attachment? Lots of nerves lead down there. :D



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And look out for cyberbrain sclerosis :p


I can feel my nerves hardening already.
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I can feel my nerves hardening already.



If your brain was nano-augmented, then you would have nerves of steel. :D
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If your brain was nano-augmented, then you would have nerves of steel. :D

[color=66ff00]Titanium is a better choice for a bio-compatible material. :nod:
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Yeah, IIRC steel oxidizes too fast.


Seriously, a bionic arm would be nice, but the principle that tech is based on, would basicly allow typing without moving anything, and stuff like that. The only major problem is input, since that would  be reasonably dangerous to attempt a direct hook-up for.
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Yeah, IIRC steel oxidizes too fast.


Seriously, a bionic arm would be nice, but the principle that tech is based on, would basicly allow typing without moving anything, and stuff like that. The only major problem is input, since that would  be reasonably dangerous to attempt a direct hook-up for.


steel is mainly comprised of iron, and the oxididation is iron oxide, mainly known as rust.. Titanium, or surgical "stainless" steel is used mainly.. Titanium being the better of the two used.
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Offline Turnsky

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Turnsky, that's a drawing.

Er, need I say more?

I wouldn't call that guy a bionic man though (how much machine do you have to be in order to become a cyborg, bionic or Darth Vader?).


yes, i know it's a drawing, for i drew it, you also missed out on the smilies i put at the end of the post, referring it as a joke:p
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Originally posted by kasperl
Yeah, IIRC steel oxidizes too fast.


Seriously, a bionic arm would be nice, but the principle that tech is based on, would basicly allow typing without moving anything, and stuff like that. The only major problem is input, since that would  be reasonably dangerous to attempt a direct hook-up for.



Reminds me way too much of the "mech augs" in Deus Ex......
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Offline Martinus

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steel is mainly comprised of iron, and the oxididation is iron oxide, mainly known as rust.. Titanium, or surgical "stainless" steel is used mainly.. Titanium being the better of the two used.

[color=66ff00]Steel does interesting (not so nice) things when you pass currents through it for extended periods too.

Titanium is often doped with other compounds in order to make it more bio-compatible. It tends to be a bit too stiff, ductility to a certain degree is useful particularly when it comes to joint replacement. The other problem is that some materials promote the growth of cells adjacent to them; aluminium for instance is used for bone implants that you want to leave in long-term as it promotes a process called 'osseointegration'.

BTW Kas I'm not sure what you mean when you refer to 'input', can you clarify?
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Input to the brain, adding more senses. Output is apparently doable, but the input towards the brain is still limited by eyes, ears, and touch.
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Originally posted by Maeglamor

[color=66ff00]Steel does interesting (not so nice) things when you pass currents through it for extended periods too.

Titanium is often doped with other compounds in order to make it more bio-compatible. It tends to be a bit too stiff, ductility to a certain degree is useful particularly when it comes to joint replacement. The other problem is that some materials promote the growth of cells adjacent to them; aluminium for instance is used for bone implants that you want to leave in long-term as it promotes a process called 'osseointegration'.

BTW Kas I'm not sure what you mean when you refer to 'input', can you clarify?
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yeah, Titanium alloys are infintessimally more useful than just straight titanium, for the reasons as stated above, titanium, albiet strong, is brittle, it'll snap instead of bend.. so either with aluminium, or another metal is the other use for it.. titanium also has an extremely high melting point, which makes it hard to produce properly.
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