[karajorma]

Well maybe not Mrs Clinton herself but I'm sure there are adolesent males all over the globe thanking her for pointing out that there are dirty sub games in Grand Theft Auto : San Andreas (worksafe link) so I couldn't resist the title.

The funny thing is that the matter had been dealt with quietly and not many people knew about it until she opened her big mouth on the subject.

The dirty games were made by rockstar but then cut from the final game. However enterprising horny people figured out how to unlock them again. Rockstar of course claim that since the only way to unlock the game is to mod it this is no different to them being not responsible for the various nude mods that exist for other games.

What's especially interesting is that it never was revealed exactly how Mrs Clinton found out about it. I suspect Billy may have had some explaining to do at one point though

[IPAndrews]

I've got no problem with the content in principle but Rockstar should have done the honourable thing and either taken the content out or left it in and had the game classified correctly. Then again what can you expect from a company that releases a game with those kinds of moral values. Even if it is the best damn game I've played in years.

[Kie99]

Something like this was bound to happen when it was ported to PC.

[aldo_14]

"Bill?  Are you still playing on that machine?"

The Jack Thompson press statement was funny as hell; he literally compares Rockstar to the Nazis, and then has a go at them because 7-14 years have bought the game.  Despite the whole age rating system (of course, parents & stores have absolutely no responsibility for stopping their children buying games, videos etc with an age rating).

I mean.... anyone who is able to get it on the Pc version, has internet access and thus can enter a whole world of smut.  It's about as dangerous an attack on childrens moral values as the animator who added a single frame showing Veronica Rabbits snatch in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

[karajorma]

Well the question has to be whether Rockstar expected anyone to find the hidden stuff.

That said I don't know why the states makes a distinction between adults only and 17+ as there is only a year between those ages (unless they say you have to be 21 to watch hot sweaty action ).

Over in the UK they simply say that it's 18 rated which is far more sensible.

EDIT : Aldo aslo makes a good point. How many people are going to be able to download the mod who couldn't simply get hold of real hardcore porn instead?

[aldo_14]

It's interesting that the age of consent in most countries is under the age at which you're legally allowed to watch shagging.

[Mefustae]

Originally posted by aldo_14
It's about as dangerous an attack on childrens moral values as the animator who added a single frame showing Veronica Rabbits snatch in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

Damn! I've gotta get my hands on a copy of that movie! I love little "additions" like that, such as the word "SEX" being spelt across the screen for a few frames in "The Lion King", or the Priest with a boner in "The Little Mermaid"...

[On Topic]Stuff like this doesn't surprise me at all anymore, i mean, Americans (at least, the ones in Power - and by that i mean the really retarded ones) have always had a crippling phobia of anything Carnal, and yet a strange attraction to anything violent/dangerous/explosive! The only question i'm posing, is how did it come to this...?![/On Topic]

[Liberator]

I've never really been a fan of GTA.  It, like too many other games recently, plays to the base parts of us, and you're not even really fighting for any particular purpose, just becuase you can and get away with it.

[aldo_14]

Isn't that why anyone fights?

[Mefustae]

Indeed, see: the history of American Warfare for the last few years

[Ford Prefect]

If a video game's central focus is violence -- in other words, most video games -- it's playing to the base part of us. People are only bothered by GTA because it's politically incorrect.

[Rictor]

If I ever come into any kind of money, I'm going to make a game that will literally give these sort of people a heart attack. That way, they'll be too busy with the gasping-for-the-air and clutching-of-the-chest to go around pissing on everyone else's good time. It'll be called "Attack of the Satanic Cop-killing Nazi Terrorist Tit-Vixens" and I'll bribe the censors to rate it E (Everyone) just so the Helen Lovejoys of the world can wake up one day and find their little Timmy analy violating Hitler while burning the American flag in one hand and smoking a joint with the other.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Liberator
I've never really been a fan of GTA.  It, like too many other games recently, plays to the base parts of us, and you're not even really fighting for any particular purpose, just becuase you can and get away with it.

You're partially right, but GTA does actually have interesting and innovative gameplay elements other than just beating up hookers and shooting at cops. Now a game like State of Emergency IS just blatant violence and that's why it's boring. I played it for all of 20 minutes. In any case, it's up to the developers to make the game they want, and up to the retailers to enforce ratings. If the game gets into the wrong hands, that's not the game's fault, but rather the fault of parents and game stores. Also, in this case it's extremely obvious that Rockstar isn't to blame, since you need a third party mod to make the content avaialble.

[aldo_14]

Is what GTA does really any worse than, for example, any Vietnam FPS though?

Anyone with half a brain is intelligent enough to know GTA represents over the top, cartoon violence.  The only people who would act upon it as if it was an example would be already mentally damaged, or under the age restriction range; and in either case they'd be just as likely to act out based on a TV programme or film, etc.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Rictor
It'll be called "Attack of the Satanic Cop-killing Nazi Terrorist Tit-Vixens" and I'll bribe the censors to rate it E (Everyone) just so the Helen Lovejoys of the world can wake up one day and find their little Timmy analy violating Hitler while burning the American flag in one hand and smoking a joint with the other.

Pitch it to Rockstar and they'd probably make it

[aldo_14]

[Carl]

Originally posted by Mefustae
Damn! I've gotta get my hands on a copy of that movie! I love little "additions" like that, such as the word "SEX" being spelt across the screen for a few frames in "The Lion King", or the Priest with a boner in "The Little Mermaid"...

First of all, it's Jessica Rabbit, not Veronica. Secondly, It's does not spell SEX, it spells SFX (special effects) and thirdly, the priest did not have a boner, that was his knee, which is very obvious if you watch that scene.

go here: http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp

[Deepblue]

I have no problem with people playing GTA, despite the fact that I think it is an absolutely moronic game, but it starts to worry me when the antics of Rockstar start to affect the industry as a whole. Here's a question for ya, why the hell does GTA share the same rating as Halo? There's no comparison between the two!

[karajorma]

There's no higher rating than 18. What hell rating do you want GTA to have? 52?

[NGTM-1R]

The rating system is for crap. Medal of Honor, for example, got a T, while Halo got an M.

As RealBigNUKE from NR.org put it: "Surely killing Koolaid-blooded aliens is more traumatic then killing your fellow humans."

But the final commentary I have on videogame violence must go to an unnamed fan of Sonic the Hedgehog...

“I'll never forget that traumatizing moment in Sonic the Hedgehog when I vicously executed my first Badnik. I tried to defend myself by claiming it was euthanasia. Surely death is preferable to a half-life as a robotic slave? I was only fooling myself...
It's been a downward spiral of violence and hate ever since then. "