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Offline BlackDove

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I have sexual urges towards Kazan.

 
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You can't bring any special credence to any belief just by bringing religion into the argument; that 'being Jewish is sinful' is just as valid a belief that 'being a(n active) homosexual is sinful' - it's just that the latter has been established and accepted for longer.

Personally I have contempt for people preaching their disdain for gays, but I wouldn't take away their right to do it. That doesn't mean I won't speak out against it with equal passion though - had a shouting match in Birmingham with some megaphone-touting soapbox preacher who was screaming his bile against gays to people passing by, and it was nice to have a couple of bystanders join in with me as well. I don't think there are many people at all who subscribe to the sort of propaganda described in that article - the world has been overly progressive in its legalisation and protection of gays and no amount of activists are going to have a lasting, broad effect to the opposite of that.

 

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Originally posted by BlackDove
I have sexual urges towards Kazan.

People don't have "sexual urges towards Kazan", they simply are Kazexual.

Hooray for Kazual sex!
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lol black

SadisticSid: there are a lot of people here in the US that subscribe to that **** - 38 states have passed state laws prohibiting homosexuals from marrying
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*embraces his destiny*

 

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lol ZB :D

i think my fiance would be annoyed with Kazual Sex not involving her
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Oh come on. We can all share.

 
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Kaz: compare the situation now with that of decades ago; it's in broad global decline and even those US will follow the trend eventually - also I see gay marriage as a VERY trivial thing compared to the broader spectrum of gay rights equality

 

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Meh..I don't have anything against one or the other.. I don't hate them..

but from my POV homosexsuals are sick people (damaged gene) and therefor deserve compassion, not hatered.

and I do hope that gene therapy advanced enough to fix that damage.
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Kaz: compare the situation now with that of decades ago; it's in broad global decline and even those US will follow the trend eventually - also I see gay marriage as a VERY trivial thing compared to the broader spectrum of gay rights equality


Don't confuse gay marriage with fair rights to gay partners, though.  The issue of being married in a church is kind of a side issue to that of, for example, having the spousal privelges extended to married couples.

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but from my POV homosexsuals are sick people (damaged gene) and therefor deserve compassion, not hatered.
 


Eep.

I'd say that's complete bollocks, but I'm off to bed justnow.  I'm sure someone will point out the lack of any 'gay gene' (plus wonder exactly how such a gene would exist for thousands of years across both sexes), the lack of any implication this gene is 'damaging' in a measurable way (i.e. in order to be classified as 'sick' or genetically disordered), and incidences of homosexuality in bonobos(SP?), sheep, and other wild animals.
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homosexsuals are sick people


Could you elaborate on that one for the rest of the class please?

 

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Don't confuse gay marriage with fair rights to gay partners, though.  The issue of being married in a church is kind of a side issue to that of, for example, having the spousal privelges extended to married couples.


I'm not confusing them - just pointing out that a lot of people see marriage or some sort of state recognition of partnership as the end-all of gay rights.

TrashMan, if being gay was purely genetic then natural selection would've bred out all but a minute percentage of us. Genetics may have something to do with it but I doubt it's as simple as flicking a biological switch. I put greater emphasis on the environment we're brought up in as a determining factor.

 
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BTW, on the issue of couples' tax benefits and allowances, I'd prefer it that neither gay or straight couples were eligible - after all, why does having a piece of paper from the registry office mean you contribute to society, especially when it can be anulled at will? Couples who raise children are a different story; you need to reproduce to keep the population from declining, which would have disastrous effects for a nation - so it'd be justifiable to benefit them in some way, especially when raising children can be so expensive.

 

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well then in that case it's practicly a choice.

this seems like a genetic thing, given how I do beleive there is documented diferences in the structure of the brain (though this could just as equaly likely be from harmonal stuff during pregnancy) and things of that nature. however I doubt the distinctions are as black and white as Kaz was makeing it sound.

as for getting selected out, that might have gotten a help ironicly from the prudey customs of many cultures, were homosexuals that would have otherwise taken a same sex mate were forced to act against there nature and mate with someone of the opposet sex, though it seems like humans have an exadurated level that even that wouldn't completely acount for, not supriseing seeing as the second most closely related animal (the bonobo) is the most "hell yeah I swing that way!" one on the planet. but evolution sometimes works in less than streightforward way, perhapes haveing a homosexual in your family does, or at one time did, provide some sort of evolutionary advantage.

however if homosexuality is in fact a disadvantage as it does on the surface at least apear to be, then the best way to get rid of the problem would in fact to do nothing about it, let people live life the way they want to live, if they have some sort of tendancy twards a disadvantagus lifestyle then they will become extinct in a few generations.

but whatever the case may be it has about as much baring on weather a person is 'good' or 'bad' as does being right or left handed.
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Annorax: the SCOTUS has repeatedly struck down anti-sodomy laws


The Supreme Court has repeatedly blocked enforcement of anti-sodomy laws that only apply to homosexuals. I seem to recall them encouraging states to pass new anti-sodomy laws that apply to everyone.

 

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but whatever the case may be it has about as much baring on weather a person is 'good' or 'bad' as does being right or left handed.


:yes:

 

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Hey wait a minute...

What's wrong with sadism, masochism or prostitution?
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I'd say that's complete bollocks, but I'm off to bed justnow.  I'm sure someone will point out the lack of any 'gay gene' (plus wonder exactly how such a gene would exist for thousands of years across both sexes), the lack of any implication this gene is 'damaging' in a measurable way (i.e. in order to be classified as 'sick' or genetically disordered), and incidences of homosexuality in bonobos(SP?), sheep, and other wild animals.


A) [re: aldo] A mutation at location Xq27 is present in 100% of true homosexuals.  the contraverse is not true however - only 70% of individuals with said mutation are homosexual [which shows it's not a single-trigger]

B) [re trash] Homosexuality is not a 'sickness' Trashman
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The Supreme Court has repeatedly blocked enforcement of anti-sodomy laws that only apply to homosexuals. I seem to recall them encouraging states to pass new anti-sodomy laws that apply to everyone.


you recall incorrectly - the antisodomy laws were struct down as invasions of privacy
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