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Offline Black Wolf

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Me and Vasudan Admiral are knocking together a HTL TC-TRI to go with his HTL Triton, and we've hit upon a difference of opinion regarding the shape. So, at an impasse as far as debating between ourselves, we've decided to get some second opinions.

On the left of the attatched image is the TC-TRI from Sparky. On the right is a quickly cut and pasted together rendition of what my current HTL one would look like were the two poly counts similarly low (I've not used an actual screenie of the new container as the extra polies make it look better, and this is a question of design, rather than purely of aesthetics). The question is whether the left or right one should be used as the basic design for the HTL ship (I'm going right (regular), VA's going left (irregular).

Anyway, on the one hand you have the basic, fundamental tenant of HTL that requires one to stick at least relatively closely to canon. also, the left hand design is, in VA's view, more interesting and breaks up the squareness of it (I think - he can come along and clarify if I'm getting it wrong). For my part, I reckon that the more uniform design is better because it gets rid of the apparently random changes in length of the extruded prongs and, while technically breaking canon, the model remains recognizably a TC-TRI. Also, if the left hand design is used, the cargo braces (X shaped texs - check them in MV if you don't remember) are applied to non square polies which, if my memory from physics is any good, wouldn't work that well.

So, opinions?

(Oh, and to forestall the inevitable question of "Why are you HTLing a cargo container anyway?", go check the old pof in Modelview. It has 75 polies spread over an object the size of a fenris. It'd stick out like the proverbials if we docked it to the nice, new HTL Triton).
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Offline Black Wolf

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OK genius, now attatch the image.

I'm an idjit.

[EDIT]Um.. hee hee... could some admin/mod/japanese fighting rabbit add a poll? Left or Right is all that's needed. I'd've done it myself, but, well, see above. Plus it's 5 AM and I only got back from work 2 hours ago.
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That's a tough call.  I'm going with right, because the general principle behind the TC-TRI is a large cargo box (the light grey) with 6 smaller boxes fastened to the sides.  Actually, I'd fix that too so that the entire big box really is a box instead of having that weird spreading right before the smaller pods as the one on the right has.  (I'd take this time to plug the fact that there is no real reason that the Triton should only have one container)  But the left one makes the front boxes look more like part of the big box.  I wouldn't be opposed to making the front non-flat, but the front sides of the two forward-most smaller boxes should still be flat forwards.

EDIT: I do think that, whatever you decide to do with the front, fixing the inconsistancies between the sizes of the external boxes is a must IMHO.  Also, make sure you fix the debris and lower LODs; while LOD0 is bad, the TC-TRI's lower LODs and debris are an absolute abomonation.
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I've been meaning to ask, what does 'HTL' stand for, anyway?
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I'm saying left.  Stick to canon.
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I say combine them.  Make the sizes of the six boxes identical but keep the beveled front edge.

 

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I would slightly lean towards the right one, but it's a hard choice. I agree with StratComm that the important thing is to make all six crates the same size. The bevel can be added on in the front to keep it close to the original but it should be textured so that it's part of the central piece and not of the front crates as it is right now.

On a side note, what really needs an overhaul is the SAC 3. Those stretched textures look ridiculous.

 

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Right one.

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I've been meaning to ask, what does 'HTL' stand for, anyway?


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I'm going with the right on this one. The original looks like it was the intern's job to model that day.
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I'm saying left.  Stick to canon.
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On a side note, what really needs an overhaul is the SAC 3. Those stretched textures look ridiculous.


Agreed, but that'll have to wait for a better modeller than I.
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I say combine them.  Make the sizes of the six boxes identical but keep the beveled front edge.


:yes:

 

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I say combine them.  Make the sizes of the six boxes identical but keep the beveled front edge.
So like this?

Got my vote. ;)

Oh, and it should be noted it's BW who's doing all the work on it at the moment, not me. :)
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Actually, I was thinking something more like this:
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So like this?

Got my vote. ;)

Oh, and it should be noted it's BW who's doing all the work on it at the moment, not me. :)


Please insert the Index to the Core, Reclaimer, or something like that anyways.
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:yes:

(Only what's the deal with those really small bumps on either side of the "fuselage" above the two highest boxes?  Those should be removed IMHO.)

 

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(those really small bumps are one of the reasons we make fun of the model.  The thing is 75 polys and isn't even square)
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