[ShadowWolf_IH]

ok i am tired of working on magor campaigns.  lol...not really.  but i know that i have done of fredding and nothing has been released as yet, with the exception of CoW.  So i am about to embark on a mini campaign...9 or ten missions.  Basic idea is in place.  This will also be a vanilla campaign as far as scp goes....but will have some mods/ effects work done.  

The basic story is simple and to the point.

Deep in a nebula, a large deposit of ice has been found.  Simple water, one of the hardest items to come by in space.  Asteroids within nebula are almost 100 % pure water, and this find, if seen through to fuition, could conceivably yield 100's of trillions of barrels worth of water.  These asteroids are simply chunks of ice floating in a nebula that until now has had little worth, strategically, tactically, or economically.

Due to the little value placed on the system, ownership has never quite been established, and the area has been known as a free zone.  

Two days after the find, a planetary governor for a neighboring system dies, his successor has already been appointed.  However others quickly step up to fill the power vaccuum, including 1 person with popular support as well as military, and another who was responsible for economic growth within said system.  3 days after the premier dies, our military friend steps up and perform a coupe de etat on the rightful new premier and siezes all assets.  He also sends the local military forces into the nebula and assumes control of the ice.

3 large corporations also have an investment within this system, and send mercenaries in.

this system of little value has suddenly become a hotbed of activity with far reaching ramifications, and the GTVA is forced to react, sending in the SOC.

that's all i really want to divulge about the storyline, but i am thinking about 10 missions for the campaign.  My question is....is it worth doing?  and if so......who would be willing to help in certain areas...storyline smoothing....dialogue.....effects...no need for fredders, i can fred ten missions in my sleep, and no need for modders/texturers because i plan to use models that are already out there for our use.

thanks for your time.

[karajorma]

One thing. You could probably obtain large amounts of water from the rings of a saturn like, ringed planet or from the Kuiper belt so you'd best explain that there are none of the former in the area and that conventional jump drives are too weak to reach a source so far from the systems main gravity well.

Sounds like a nice idea.

[Nuclear1]

I like the idea behind it and the plotline, and I think it would make an enjoyable minicampaign. The only question I have is to the science behind it (this may be from my own ignorance, too, so forgive me if it is); is it possible to have pure ice water form an asteroid, and, the bigger question, could it exist in a nebular environment?

With that aside, I'm always here in case you need a story editor, beta tester, writer (dialogue, etc.), or the like.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

well as far as the science goes....don't ask me, i'm just an idea man, not an engineer...lol.  it owuld seem to me though, that a nebula wouldn't necessarily be hot.  depending on age...it is just a collection of dust and gas.  the water isn't in the asteroids...it IS the astreroids.  I don't know the physics behind behind it, but one thoery of our moon is that it is a rogue planet caught in our gravity.  a comet is mostly ice.  what if a rogue comet got caught in a gravity well before the star went supernova...the comet was far enough out that it stattered, but the icy core didn't melt.  It would of course had to have been huge to produce enough watre to make this venture viable.  another idea is that it was a planet very very far from the star.  again far enough that while the shockwave would shatter it, it wouldn't have been close enough for the heat to have melted the pieces entirely.  

Like i said...i don't pretend to know the physics, but if this could happen....then we have a basis for the campaign.  if this couldn't happen and i am behing stupid.....please someone tell me.

Logistics for why it is important.....yes water can be mined from the rings and belts...or brought in from planetary sources themselves.  but of all of the commodities in the galaxy, water woulkd still probably be the most important, because in space...it is scarce.  Water will always be the bane of space travel.  and any source close enough to supply a system...or a set of systems...would be worth a great deal to those with the ambition to harvest it.

and kara this campaign is for you...cause you told me once that you were looking forward to seeing more of my work...and THAT isn't going to happen in the near future unless i do some mini campaigns.

[karajorma]

Glad to hear that someone is thinking of me

I'm more of a dabbler in astrophysics than any kind of expert but it seems to me that if you say the nebula is old and a star system is passing through it (Or say that this star was a part of a binary system with the one that went nova but at a very large seperation) you could get away with having ice asteroids in a nebula

[ShadowWolf_IH]

lol problem solved......Kara you are like Spock, i'll take your guess over most people's facts...lol

Nuclear1 i apreciate the offer and could definately use your help.  If i am not mistaken i have you on my icq.

[Boomer]

Or you could say that the Nebula is rich in hydrogen\oxygen.

Over the years, the lightning in the nebula would have formed water, which would have instantly frozen.  Since its insulated by the gaseous nebula, solar winds couldn't easily strip the "asteroids" of their watery goodness.  

Plus, this would make the nebula a valuable source of terraforming materials and fuel, but hey, what nebula isn't?

Or, of course, you could go with Kara's suggestion, either one is good.

[DarthWang]

I say you should go for it.

As for helping, I can't really do anything except FRED, which you already said you don't need help with, although I suppose I could help with the storyline....

[ShadowWolf_IH]

Thanks for the input boomer...i kind of like that.  and darth...the reason i am not calling for fredders is that fredders are in short supply here.  What have you fredded before?

[Kie99]

I can beta test, and I'd be glad to help with the storyline.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

ok if those who were interested in helping to flesh out the story would PM me it would be great.

[aldo_14]

Mini-campaigns are fun.  I keep having to stop myself starting to make one.

Oh, and you could always add some strange bizarre mystic aspect to the ice asteroids place in space.  Or make it something different from ice. Like rip off the idea of Ice Nine or something.

[Roanoke]

I reckon the idea of a campaign revovling around something that's fairly easy to obtain in real life is great. Wish I could have ideas like that...

[aldo_14]

Freespace 2: the Cheese Wars

To be honest, I'm trying to figure out ways of doing a small campaign thats focused around people rather than, say, some big interstellar war.

Y'know, there's still a cohesive storyline and important events happening, but at the same time the main thing is how those events are impacting the characters you have.  

(sidenote; could have missions that act as flashback scenes explaing the characters....... )

I had a ****-hot plan written for one little SOC/GTVI/black ops campaign, actually.  Very machiavellian, 2 or 3 nice twists in the tale and a really intense (planned) ending mission.  Might still do it one day, it's not particularly mod heavy or the like.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

OK, i am going for it. Tentatively called Waterlord.

What i need is someone who can add the dialogue to the missions after i build them.  And someone to do CB ani's.  

Screen shot from OP1 Mission1.

[Roanoke]

that, is a lot of guns

[Depth_Charge]

lol got enough weapons there........

[ShadowWolf_IH]

it makes for one hell of a minefield though.

[Getter Robo G]

Good Idead SW!!! I'm very glad you didn't call it "Water World" though (that movie gave me mental scars). "Ice Pirates" could be a fun name though (and was a kick-ass romp). Do you remember the Space Herpies?

One suggestion, why not make it from one of the Corporation's POV. That way in the future you can make a sequel where you are approached again by them or continue the merc career?

( "Greetings pilot, OCP has need of your services again." )

[Nuclear1]

*awaits assignment*