[.::Tin Can::.]

Wow...

That controller uh...

It uh...

Yeah it blows...

[aldo_14]

Ah, the considered and reasoned intellectual opinion. Where would we be with it?

[Ford Prefect]

This controller's main downside is that it's for Nintendo.

[Charismatic]

my god. Damit nientendo! i was rooting for you!

What the **#$*$ is that. That is a insult to nientendo. What the hell were they thinking!

I like solid controlers too.

Yeah its 'revolutionary'. Yeah it'd be cool to wave the controler and wave ur sword at same time in Zelda. But this is just gay..

Im very dissapointed.

[Grey Wolf]

I like the NES emulation possibilities. Other than that, give me a PS1/PS2 controller any day.

Incidentally, bets on how long it will take before third party versions of the PS3 controller that look like the originals come out?

[Ulala]

*shrugs* It looks plenty capable to me.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Mongoose



Last time I checked, even with standard controllers, no one looks that good when playing a game.  You're flipping sticks around, pounding on buttons, jerking your head left and right, and even moving the controller in a vain attempt to get more out of it. The difference is, with this thing, that motion actually accomplishes something.  I'll repeat what was said before:  I don't give a damn how stupid I look while using it.  If it's fun, that's all that matters.
 

I don't know about you, but I never do that when playing games. In fact, I play them to relax - i.e. not move.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Charismatic
But this is just gay..

AFAIK Nintendo have yet to confirm the controllers use as an anal sex device.  Although I guess you must see the possibilities already.

[Turnsky]

i think the true revolutionary part of the console, is the ability to support independant gamers, and indie games.

[Mongoose]

Originally posted by Unknown Target


I don't know about you, but I never do that when playing games. In fact, I play them to relax - i.e. not move.

I don't play games to relax; I play them to increase my blood pressure and get pissed off when I die. I remember when I used to play Super Mario Kart on the SNES; I'd be jerking that controller left and right like it was an actual steering wheel.  Being able to do it and have it actually mean something will be a nice change of pace.  And if that shell concept is true, then this thing just kicks all the more ass.

Ford, what's your problem with Nintendo?  As far as I'm concerned, they're one of the few groups left in gaming that are still concentrating  on what makes games important:  the fun of gameplay.  Not specular or normal mapping, not insane hardware specs, but plain old gameplay.  And don't bother to accuse their games of being "kiddie;" half of my campus, myself included, plays Super Smash Bros. religiously.

[Scuddie]

The one thing going for Nintendo now is that it's a party platform.  Super Smash Bros is fun as hell to play with a group of people, but is boring as hell to play by yourself.  As for the single player games, I have not seen one that was for people older than 13 years old...  except for Bad Fur Day, which got Nintendo sued.  What does that say about Nintendo's target audience?

[Rictor]

I want to see Nintedo up there with the big boys again. They deserve it, and they seem to me to be the only ones left who still have a bit of, dare I say it, integrity. Maybe I just like them because they're old and the underdogs. They've done more than their fair share of innovating, and hopefully the new controller will appeal to a wide enough audience to restore them to their rightful place.

[Drew]

it has chances of being dependent on periphials, its not a regular controller everybody is used to, its a little weird, and the idea of waving your arm all over the place to do common things easily done with regular is a turn off to the avergage population.  

personally, id rather push one button that gets the job done than wave my hand in the air. How are you supposed to play button slamming games like soul calibur or super smash brothers, NBA street or even games like x-men legends. for jhanrahs (thats the right spelling there) like FPS and RTS or racing, this gives of potential to the consoles. FPS and RTS on always felt un-intuitive on console, because FPS requires a much larger and more free range of motion.   This controler really capitilizes on ideas already used on PC.  Theres also the chance that new forms of games will appear and change the gaming landscape totaly, which could be a good thing.  something that dosnt make sense is how you would play sports games on it; sports games have always relied on the buttons; you cant pick recivers that well by waving your hand around and shooting a basket has always been a one button thing.

i got over that "push your controler to where you want the damned thing on screen to go" when i was 8, when i was playing the SNES, and i think thats the way it is for most people. But i can still remmeber my mom and dad and sister trying to pick up on mario cart and twist their entire bodies and arms trying to get the damn things to move. I guess nintendo is trying to bridge the gap between grandkids, parents and grandparents so they can all play together. Console gamers are comfortable with controllers, and i doubt they would have it any other way. There are definitly some detriments to the console controlers, which is why PC gaming with a mouse is so popular.  i cant really judge because iv never used the thing, but it has some great possibilities and chances for some really great detriments

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Drew
personally, id rather push one button that gets the job done than wave my hand in the air. How are you supposed to play button slamming games like soul calibur or super

Now class, we read with our EYES, not with our MOUTHS or FINGERS.

Q: What does the conventional controller cradle/shell do?

A: This add-on makes it possible to play Revolution games in a more traditional manner. The shell is designed to look and function like accepted "regular" controllers, such as the Wave Bird. After its bottom casing is removed, the Revolution's free-hand-style remote is inserted into a gap in the middle of the controller shell. Gamers can then use the shell as they would a traditional controller, with a notable difference: the pointer remote's sensory functionality remains active. As a result, gamers get the best of both worlds: more buttons and two analog sticks along with motion-sensing operations. In a Revolution version of Madden Football, gamers might be able to use the combo to control players with the shell's analog sticks and execute pinpoint passes with the pointer's improved accuracy. [/B]

[Mefustae]

Originally posted by Rictor
I want to see Nintedo up there with the big boys again. They deserve it, and they seem to me to be the only ones left who still have a bit of, dare I say it, integrity. Maybe I just like them because they're old and the underdogs. They've done more than their fair share of innovating, and hopefully the new controller will appeal to a wide enough audience to restore them to their rightful place.

That's the thing, Big N doesn't want to be up there with the "big boys" - ie. Sony & Microsoft - again, they're going somewhere else. I really like Nintendo's angle, because they're effectively saying "**** This!" to the War over Graphics, Hardware and the 18-30 Year old Males that Sony & Microsoft are still embroiled in. Instead, they're going for different audiences, getting back to the roots of Console Gaming, the games - yes, it's hard to imagine I know, but Consoles were once about Games, not expensive accessories and Hardware with names the common man can't even pronounce. Big N has made a bold step and I for one really hope it pays off...

Originally posted by mikhael
Now class, we read with our EYES, not with our MOUTHS or FINGERS.

What makes it worse, is that I made a big honking post with that exact Q&A Response and even a giant picture one page back...*sigh*

[Ghost]

Well hoo-rawr. Don't get your panties in a twist. Think about playing something like Star Fox with this. Just point the thing and your Arwing would move that way. God damn that would be fun. And what if they made another game in the Dark Forces series? Holy **** awesome lightsaber fights. I wonder if you could use two of these for dual lightsabers, and then stick em together for a double-bladed saber. That'd be ****ing sweet.

[Scuddie]

If it was ever about the graphics, the PS2 would have died long ago, instead of being the top runner.  It has always been about the games.  The graphics come into play as adding feeling to the game.  Ofcourse there are idiots who think graphics make the game (NFS:U players), I would much rather play a racing game like GT4, rather than a game like Rad Racer, as far as feeling of the game goes.  If graphics were nothing, we'd still be playing with 4-bit graphics.

With that said, I don't believe PS2 is better than GCN, just different.  Nintendo's target audience is children.  Therefor, they make childish games, where fun is the only element.  Adult oriented games don't have that trait, because after a short while, it would become boring and stupid.  Would GTA be a top seller if it comprised primarily of jacking cars and shooting cops?  I think not.

Anyway, my current favorite game for the PS2 is Capcom Vs SNK 2.  Graphics don't play a big role in that game.  At all.

[Grey Wolf]

PS2 is, in fact, older than either the Xbox or GCN, being roughly the same age as the Dreamcast, so comparing graphics is rather pointless.

[Mefustae]

Originally posted by Scuddie
Nintendo's target audience is children.  Therefor, they make childish games, where fun is the only element.

This is obviously coming from a person that has never played Metroid Prime 1 or 2, Resident Evil 4 - not to mention the Resident Evil 1 remake, and so forth. The GCN has been cast as a child-oriented console because many good games were open to younger players, something that the Xbox & PS2 don't have (by that I mean headliner games open to players outside the 18-30 male demographic). That, and ignorant people that have never played a GCN in their life yet see no quam in judging it to be something it's not...

[Mongoose]

One thing that I've always wondered about:  who the heck came up with the abbreviation "GCN"?  There's not even an N in GameCube!