[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Ghost
Well hoo-rawr. Don't get your panties in a twist. Think about playing something like Star Fox with this. Just point the thing and your Arwing would move that way. God damn that would be fun. And what if they made another game in the Dark Forces series? Holy **** awesome lightsaber fights. I wonder if you could use two of these for dual lightsabers, and then stick em together for a double-bladed saber. That'd be ****ing sweet.

Exactly. Someone gets it.

Why learn pages of button combos when you can just do tricks with the lightsaber yourself? If I want to study pages of combinations of symbols and letters, I'll open up my math book.

[Tieowbeijas]

Originally posted by Mongoose
One thing that I've always wondered about:  who the heck came up with the abbreviation "GCN"?  There's not even an N in GameCube!

I think it's supposed to mean "GameCube Nintendo".
And for the kiddie console deal, Eternal Darkness is all i have to say. But still, lots of the "kiddie" games are boatloads of fun.

[Scuddie]

Personally, I think Metroid Prime sucked, but that's beside the point.  Truth be known, I play GCN fairly often, but only at parties.  I don't think I'd be caught playing Smash Bros or Kart by myself.  The overall silliness without the sharing of a few laughs does not appeal to me.  Granted that there are some good wide scope general purpose games (EA Sports, Soul Calibur, Rogue Squadron, etc), but the vast majority of other games are either too childish for a mature person to play alone, or an embarassing attempt at trying to please a mature audience.  It is this that gives it a child-oriented console title, not ignorance .

[Fenrir]

...I don't understand what makes it "taboo" or whatever to play something like SSBM by one's self. At all. I also fail to see how the childish nature of the game is a bad thing. I know that's just a matter of preference, but I don't quite see why it suddenly doesn't matter in a group setting. Sure, I can understand not playing the game alone simply because the CPU's suck and you get nothing from beating them, but I don't quite get where you're coming from.

[Mongoose]

So what defines a "mature person" to you?  If I were to go out and buy a Gamecube tomorrow and start playing SSBM or Mario Kart Double Dash by myself, would that somehow make me "immature"?  Since when is someone's maturity related to playing games that have gratuitous bloodshed, violence, and sexuality?  Believe it or not, some of us mature people don't necessarily want that crap in our games; we're looking for games that give us enjoyment, even if they're rated E.  Just because a game has content suitable for children doesn't mean that only children can play it; by that logic, you'd be saying that adults shouldn't watch movies like The Wizard of Oz.

Edit:  Fenrir beat me to it.  And yes, the CPU in SSBM does suck

[Grey Wolf]

I enjoyed the original SSB, and I play SSBM at college (not by myself though, as the GCN is not mine).

[Scuddie]

It's not a bad thing, nor is it "taboo".  It's just not as an effective tool for entertainment anymore.  If I was 12 years old, sure it would be entertaining for me.  But I'm 23, and that kind of thing doesn't work for me anymore.  I look for more serious games.  The exception is when I'm hanging out with a bunch of my friends, and we're just fooling around and having a good time.  Each game system has context.  And if you said PS2 was only an adults game system, I would use Jak & Daxter as an example of how wrong you are...  When in reality, yes PS2 is primarily for the more mature gamers.  And never did I say it was better, I have always used the term different.

[Fenrir]

I see. Putting it that way makes far more sense.

[Drew]

Originally posted by mikhael


Now class, we read with our EYES, not with our MOUTHS or FINGERS.

 

sorry about stepping on your dick man
 
the point is that general concept behind the controller is  slightly messed up. right now, the design is only half usefull. nobody wants to buy a shell for their controller that makes it compatible with the rest of the games on the market.  developers like EA tend to release identical games on all three consoles, but with this unique and different system; lets just say EA does release a NCAA 2007 on all consoles. Consumers might have to buy the wavebird addon to play it. The fact is that of developers would rather develop for the two major systems to maximize their revenue for that game, forcing revolution owners to buy a periphial to play their games.

[Grey Wolf]

Who knows? Maybe they'll package the Wavebird adaptor with the system.

[Mongoose]

If EA decides not to market games for the Revolution, all the better.  I wouldn't want their crap sullying it anyway

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Mefustae
That's the thing, Big N doesn't want to be up there with the "big boys" - ie. Sony & Microsoft - again, they're going somewhere else. I really like Nintendo's angle, because they're effectively saying "**** This!" to the War over Graphics, Hardware and the 18-30 Year old Males that Sony & Microsoft are still embroiled in. Instead, they're going for different audiences, getting back to the roots of Console Gaming, the games - yes, it's hard to imagine I know, but Consoles were once about Games, not expensive accessories and Hardware with names the common man can't even pronounce. Big N has made a bold step and I for one really hope it pays off...

Define big boys, though.  If you mean 'the most profitable console / games company', they're already it.  If you mean the biggest total audience, then that's what they're aiming for; every person outside the world of PS3/X360 dick wavery.

(and on another note)

What's so mature about 15/18 rated games anyways?  All it amounts to is sitting in front of a TV or monitor hitting buttons in either case.  The only difference is, I guess, how snobbish you are about your own tastes; ultimately we're not playing games for fun, same as everyone else.  It's pretty damn arrogant to assume our own taste is the only valid and sneer on everyone else', even if we are all guilty of it from time to time.

I'll say again; I want to try this first; then I'll know if I like it.  But the fact I actually want to try it, already sets it apart from MS & Sonys offerings - I know what they'll bring; more of the same, with flashier graphics.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon


Exactly. Someone gets it.

Why learn pages of button combos when you can just do tricks with the lightsaber yourself? If I want to study pages of combinations of symbols and letters, I'll open up my math book.

the fat kids of the world would fear it like a diet, 'cuz they would have to be....active.

[kode]

Originally posted by Drew


sorry about stepping on your dick man
 
the point is that general concept behind the controller is  slightly messed up. right now, the design is only half usefull. nobody wants to buy a shell for their controller that makes it compatible with the rest of the games on the market.  developers like EA tend to release identical games on all three consoles, but with this unique and different system; lets just say EA does release a NCAA 2007 on all consoles. Consumers might have to buy the wavebird addon to play it. The fact is that of developers would rather develop for the two major systems to maximize their revenue for that game, forcing revolution owners to buy a periphial to play their games.

ackshulli, EA boss-person was quite excited about the rev controllar. I can't be arsed to find an english source of it though, but I have one in swedish somewhere.

[Ulala]

Originally posted by Scuddie
...or an embarassing attempt at trying to please a mature audience.

RE:4 embarassing?

[Scuddie]

I said vast majority, not all.  IOW ~80%.  I havent played RE4, so I cant make judgement for that particular game.

[Mefustae]

Well, whether the GCN is indeed a Kiddie Console remains to be debated. The hard fact is that Big N picked up major coinage regardless...

...and, seriously, go out an either purchase or rent or just simply play Resident Evil 4! It's the best entry into the series yet, and with unbelievable graphics, gameplay, and reasonably hard (apart from the final boss , but it did take me several attempts to get past the Chainsaw bloke at the very beginning of the game ), it's one of the best games you can get on the GCN...well, in my opinion anyway...

[MicroPsycho]

Just because GCN has 2 M-rated games doesn't mean it's not a kiddie console, as most of their games are childish or "family friendly".

And the Rev control sucks and blows at the same time and hard.

[Bobboau]

yeah, the game cube is a child's console, I know this because my little brother has one and I went out to see if there was a game I would like, very limited selection, especaly compared to the other consoles, though plenty of 'super monkey ball' and 'happy cloud island'. just because it has had a few adult games ported to it doesn't change the fact that it's a child's console.
and I'm a PC fanboy, so don't start yelling 'xbox lover!!! your opi0nion is teh r0ng!!!' I consiter all consoles generaly impotent and limited, the childness issue is totaly dependent upon the software available (wich is influenced by the company that lisences production on there hardware)

[Ford Prefect]

Yeah that basically sums up my position too.