[Grey Wolf]

Eh. The old one wasn't bad, but this one annoys me.

I still wish K-Ninja worked better.

[Nuclear1]

Good things come to those who wait...

*follows link*

[MicroPsycho]

I tried Opera a few weeks ago when they gave away the free keys, it's to flashy, ugly and I hates it. FF FTW.

[Annorax]

Originally posted by MicroPsycho
I tried Opera a few weeks ago when they gave away the free keys, it's to flashy, ugly and I hates it. FF FTW.

Skins are your friends...

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Descenterace

Opera is an example of what's wrong with application software today: feature creep. They've always got to add one more function.
Do one thing, and do it well.
And if Firefox doesn't work well on your machine, fine. No one's forcing you to use it. Just don't assume that your computer is The One True Computer.
 

Yet the Opera download is more than 2 times smaller than the Firefox download. Firefox is a 8.2MB download, Opera is 3.7MB. I'm not sure you can claim Opera is bloated, as with all its features (which are useful to some people) it's still smaller than Firefox.

[BlackDove]

WOW

THE DIFFERENCE IN MEGABYES IS STAGGERING

OPERA ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!





































Not.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by Kamikaze


Yet the Opera download is more than 2 times smaller than the Firefox download. Firefox is a 8.2MB download, Opera is 3.7MB. I'm not sure you can claim Opera is bloated, as with all its features (which are useful to some people) it's still smaller than Firefox.

You fail to read properly:

Free Download
Firefox 1.0.6 for Windows, English (4.7MB)

1.5 Beta 1 clocks in at 4.93MB. The only ones that are twice as big as Opera are the Mozilla Suite (~12MB) and Sea Monkey (same).

[mikhael]

Um. Why are we arguing? Use Opera if you like it. Use Firefox if you like it.

But for Steak's sake, don't use IE for anything except testing your own website.

[Grey Wolf]

Windows Update.

[mikhael]

Automatic Update is your friend. Let it download the updates for you, then choose what to install.

[BlackDove]

Choosing to install IE updates is useless though, because you shouldn't be using it in the first place.

Opinion anyway.

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf
You fail to read properly:
 

No, I use a different OS.

[Grey Wolf]

The Linux version is much bigger? Odd. Must be due to using the other rendering engine.

[Fury]

Originally posted by mikhael
Automatic Update is your friend. Let it download the updates for you, then choose what to install.

Automatic Updates do not even try to download optional updates or software, only updates that are classified as important gets downloaded. So yeah, from time to time it's best  to check Windows or Microsoft Update for optional updates if you would like to install those.

You can use you favorite browser for whatever you like, but saying you should not use IE even for Windows or Microsoft Update is just silly.

[CP5670]

It's also just one more stupid thing running in the background. Also, there are occasionally patches that cause problems with something else but get downloaded anyway. I prefer to check out the update site myself every now and then and know exactly what I'm getting.

By the way, what's with the Firefox pimping banners in some people's forum images or signatures? I mean, if you know what the banner means and why FF is so great, you probably already have it (or Opera or whatever else; something besides IE), and if you don't the link is somewhat confusing on what exactly FF is.

[Descenterace]

Originally posted by Kamikaze


Yet the Opera download is more than 2 times smaller than the Firefox download. Firefox is a 8.2MB download, Opera is 3.7MB. I'm not sure you can claim Opera is bloated, as with all its features (which are useful to some people) it's still smaller than Firefox.

Did I say anything about filesize? I was referring to the number of pointless 'features'. I don't give a damn how big the download is.

[kode]

Originally posted by Descenterace


Did I say anything about filesize? I was referring to the number of pointless 'features'. I don't give a damn how big the download is.

so... what features are pointless, then? my opinion is that they're mostly useful. like the trash can and the mouse gestures. and the office they have in the city where I live.

[Scuddie]

I still don't get why people are still slamming IE.  Sure it's got tons of exploits, but if you visit black sites, it's your own damn fault you get hijacked.  Also, IE by itself sucks, but put Maxthon on top of it and it's comparable to Firefox.  I have no reason to use Opera or Firefox, as I use Maxthon shell and don't visit black sites.  Simple as that.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Scuddie
I still don't get why people are still slamming IE.  Sure it's got tons of exploits, but if you visit black sites, it's your own damn fault you get hijacked.  Also, IE by itself sucks, but put Maxthon on top of it and it's comparable to Firefox.  I have no reason to use Opera or Firefox, as I use Maxthon shell and don't visit black sites.  Simple as that.

You're obviously extremely uninformed (i.e. ignorant) about IE and the many varied reasons not to use it. I suggest that you either read up on IE and all its flaws, or just keep quiet on the issue.

EDIT: To give you an idea of the reasons why IE sucks:

- Standards support is either extremely buggy or simply missing
- Security issues go unpatched for long periods of time; when patches are finally issued, it isn't unheard of for them to be re-patched or pulled completely
- IE's featureset has remained largely the same since version 4.0, which shipped with Windows 98. Only 7 years out-dated.

[Scuddie]

Originally posted by Sandwich
- Standards support is either extremely buggy or simply missing
True dat.  It's too bad you can say the same thing about every other browser as well, all of which have their different areas.

- Security issues go unpatched for long periods of time; when patches are finally issued, it isn't unheard of for them to be re-patched or pulled completely
I don't visit black sites.  I therefor don't give a rats ass about security updates;  And to no surprise, I never had a problem...  ever.

- IE's featureset has remained largely the same since version 4.0, which shipped with Windows 98. Only 7 years out-dated.
Aye.  However, that is what shells are for.  I have a link for you.  Maxthon gives all the major features of firefox without adding an extra memory footprint.

Anyway, until you know how to use IE (which most people apparently dont know how to do), I suggest YOU keep quiet on the matter .