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Offline NeoHunter

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heh... i give you my blessings for bringing my idea to life  


Your idea?!


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heh... i give you my blessings for bringing my idea to life  

Sorry to break this to you dude, but we've had this idea a while longer than you have  
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Offline Thorn

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Maybe I should do people with 3D Studio Max a big favor.
Finally! I have 3DS Max, but not truespace, and I want to do some model editing.
This would be a great help...

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Offline Fineus

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We're working on it. Believe me, over the last few days we've proceeded at a rather rapid rate and hope to have at least a couple of new sections up and running very soon.

 

Offline NeoHunter

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Anyway, I already have a the following in 3D Studio Max R3 format.

GTF Ares
GTB Artemis D.H

Those who want these can email me.

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Offline Fineus

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I know this is going to sound wrong, but I feel I have to say it anyway, we've been working hard on this for some time now and without and disrespect for you - it's kinda dis-heartening to have someone come along and do something exactly the same as what we've been working on. I know your trying to help the community but it's making what work we do seem to count for less, especially if people just say "oh wow, thats already been done". I hope you understand out point of view on this...

 

Offline Setekh

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I know this is going to sound wrong, but I feel I have to say it anyway, we've been working hard on this for some time now and without and disrespect for you - it's kinda dis-heartening to have someone come along and do something exactly the same as what we've been working on. I know your trying to help the community but it's making what work we do seem to count for less, especially if people just say "oh wow, thats already been done". I hope you understand out point of view on this...

This seems to be happening a lot to us lately, huh...  
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Offline Nico

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... that's just two ships, or one file format (lwo). Just look at it as a free preview, dudes  
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Offline Fineus

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Sure, we just don't want to waste out time should he decide to do all the ships in the game, which would effectively make all our hard work count for nothing.

 

Offline Setekh

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Just look at it as a free preview, dudes  

Always helps to have someone to lighten the mood  
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Offline Pez

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No offence to the HLP guys, I know you work hard on things but this conversion project was announced a long time ago. And it seems like little things have happend with this project (atleast you haven't told us much about it  ), only lately and with this thread people have got some updates.

And you gotta see that this is hardly a unique idea. Kazan has released all the FS ship in .COB format. Reaperman (i think it was him atleast) has converted some FS ships and they are available for download on a 3d site.

Still I hope to see the models released, it would be a great for all who want to do FS renders.

Pez

 

Offline Fineus

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I understand where your coming from, but we've been working on various things for some time now (simultaniously) and had hoped to release them as they were completed as a suprise. Little information was given out for that reason - we wanted to say "hey look, all this stuff is here now!" when it's done, but "and I've added another ship to the database today" every time that happened. Unfortunately (through no deliberate action of anyone else) we had to show our hand now or watch all the work we put into everything go forgotten as people said "nice, you copied this off NeoHunter (or whoever)".

As for the "unique" thing... AFAIK the truth is we've been planning the ship database pretty much since Setekh and I got heavily into rendering, as we both said "hey, we're doing this database, it'll take time but why not convert the models?". Since then various other people have converted various other things and put them up for download.

As the project(s) near completion we're increasingly anxious that people don't waste their efforts by doing something thats already done (or by making it seem like our work was inspired by something else).

I'll talk about the situation with the staff and see how things are going, but believe me the scale of what we have to do just now is quiet massive, and as I've said so many times - I don't want to have our work ignored by design or accident.

God, it sounds really selfish looking back at it - but how would you feel if a project you'd been working on for months was suddenly forgotten because a couple of people did something (by accident) that was the major part of that project. You'd be upset right? we'll so it is with us, I'm trying to be fair enough it but we frankly don't want to have wasted our efforts.

 

Offline Nico

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I understand your point. to have things made easier, maybe you should do it in 3 parts: first release: shivan ships (coz everybody will probably use them), then GTA and vasudans. 3 parts, easier work  
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Offline Fineus

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Hmm, thats not a bad idea you know... thanks for that  

I'm not sure what set I'll start with, we'll see how it goes.

 

Offline Pez

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Originally posted by Thunder:
I understand where your coming from, but we've been working on various things for some time now (simultaniously) and had hoped to release them as they were completed as a suprise. Little information was given out for that reason - we wanted to say "hey look, all this stuff is here now!" when it's done, but "and I've added another ship to the database today" every time that happened. Unfortunately (through no deliberate action of anyone else) we had to show our hand now or watch all the work we put into everything go forgotten as people said "nice, you copied this off NeoHunter (or whoever)".

As for the "unique" thing... AFAIK the truth is we've been planning the ship database pretty much since Setekh and I got heavily into rendering, as we both said "hey, we're doing this database, it'll take time but why not convert the models?". Since then various other people have converted various other things and put them up for download.

As the project(s) near completion we're increasingly anxious that people don't waste their efforts by doing something thats already done (or by making it seem like our work was inspired by something else).

I'll talk about the situation with the staff and see how things are going, but believe me the scale of what we have to do just now is quiet massive, and as I've said so many times - I don't want to have our work ignored by design or accident.

God, it sounds really selfish looking back at it - but how would you feel if a project you'd been working on for months was suddenly forgotten because a couple of people did something (by accident) that was the major part of that project. You'd be upset right? we'll so it is with us, I'm trying to be fair enough it but we frankly don't want to have wasted our efforts.

I completly agree with you. But I didn't know about the ship database. I thought that you would only release the models. And converting the files should take 1-2 weeks. That's why I found it a little weird that you guys hadn't released them.

Pez

[This message has been edited by Pez (edited 08-26-2001).]

 

Offline Fineus

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Ah, no  

As the cat is (so to speak) out of the bag, we're working on the most complete ship viewer ever. Featuring all kinds of useful information along with images and the models of the ship in COB, 3DS and LW.

 

Offline NeoHunter

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Okay. I think I shouldn't offer the models for download first. So, Thunder, do you need a GTF Ares and a GTB Artemis D.H 3D Studio Max R3 model? I could send them to you. You know, sort of like a small, small contribution.

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Offline Fineus

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Hmm... I have an idea that may end up being benificial to everyone. Watch this space  

  

Offline NeoHunter

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Hmm... I have an idea that may end up being benificial to everyone. Watch this space  

Someone help me. I think my eyeballs are stucked to the screen!!!


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Offline Fineus

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Sighs I guess I'll tell you and run it by Setekh when he comes on tomorrow.

How about you convert all the ships to 3DS so that their working etc? We could then substitute the few we've done (of that type) with all of yours thus saving us the workload. Credit would be given to you for creation of those files on the front of the ship viewer