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Offline Flipside

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on: October 10, 2005, 08:26:58 pm
Saw this on Warpstorm, and thought some people here might find it interesting...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1804409,00.html

Apparently, they've (Archeologists, not the peeps at WS) located the original Ithaca, as opposed to the Island which is currently named Ithaca, it's quite an interesting tale ;)
 

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Reply #1 on: October 10, 2005, 09:05:31 pm
Wow, very cool :)
 

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Reply #2 on: October 10, 2005, 09:14:56 pm
Mweh, nice for them, call me when they locate Atlantis.
 

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Reply #3 on: October 10, 2005, 09:30:01 pm
Well, Plato's Critias does provide equal or more detail on Atlantis to Homers earlier writings on Ithaca, so if the techniques used here have helped to find the original Ithaca, you never know ;)
 

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Reply #4 on: October 11, 2005, 02:41:32 am
Cool. :)
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Reply #5 on: October 11, 2005, 02:58:47 am
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Mweh, nice for them, call me when they locate Atlantis.
I seem to recall reading about some theories naming a Minoan city as the origin of the Atlantis myth...
 

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Reply #6 on: October 11, 2005, 05:29:48 am
Coolness.
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Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 02:05:07 pm
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Mweh, nice for them, call me when they locate Atlantis.
The Ireland theory, perhaps?
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Reply #8 on: October 11, 2005, 06:12:15 pm
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I seem to recall reading about some theories naming a Minoan city as the origin of the Atlantis myth...


I'm fairly certain that Plato just made Atlantis up.
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Reply #9 on: October 11, 2005, 06:20:56 pm
Like Homeros made up Ithaca?
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Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 06:53:55 pm
No, like "use this city as a metaphor for society" since it never actually existed.  Homer's got a track record of using actual places, even if they weren't contemporary to his time (Troy).  Plato does not.
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Reply #11 on: October 11, 2005, 06:59:28 pm
Thing is that the Minoan civilisation bears many resemblances to the story Plato tells.
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Reply #12 on: October 11, 2005, 07:07:38 pm
If he could invent Socrates, he could invent a city. :D
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Reply #13 on: October 11, 2005, 07:58:11 pm
Ireland also matches the physical description perfectly.

And Ford: Plato did not invent Socrates, you idiot.
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Reply #14 on: October 11, 2005, 08:01:48 pm
I was joking, Mr. Silly Bear.

God damn, I knew someone would get angry over that.
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Reply #15 on: October 11, 2005, 08:07:19 pm
:lol:

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Reply #16 on: October 11, 2005, 08:07:34 pm
It's a silly theory that won't die. Anyway, we have two different direct students of Socrates: Plato and Xenophon.
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Reply #17 on: October 11, 2005, 08:10:33 pm
Yes, and besides that, we have Aristophanes' ridicule that is almost certainly about Socrates, (and that probably got him executed.)
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Reply #18 on: October 11, 2005, 09:17:06 pm
Ithica.. is the place where the girl took off her...
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and thats all i know. Was too distracted.
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Reply #19 on: October 11, 2005, 09:17:35 pm
Wrong Ithaca.
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