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Offline Corsair

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on: October 14, 2005, 04:40:24 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/14/space.shuttle.reut/index.html

They're talking May 2006... and meanwhile, snail's pace on a replacement for the shuttle.
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Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #1 on: October 14, 2005, 04:47:03 pm
They're ditching the concept of reusable spacecraft. Back to Apollo-style capsules.
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Offline Descenter

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Reply #2 on: October 14, 2005, 04:48:11 pm
I personally like the 'gilder' idea with the shuttle myself, besides being reusable.

[Edit] better yet they should keep the shuttle for launches into space from earth and design a new interplanetary vehicle that can be launched from space.
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Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #3 on: October 14, 2005, 04:50:46 pm
It has a marked tendency to consume money, however. I'm actually intrigued more by the CEV concept, as, unlike the Shuttle, it's a true interplanetary vehicle. The Shuttle had orbital capability, but nothing more.
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #4 on: October 14, 2005, 05:28:56 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
They're ditching the concept of reusable spacecraft. Back to Apollo-style capsules.


Absolutely no technical advance, I notice; just go back to the same old recycled 1960s ideas.
 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #5 on: October 14, 2005, 05:56:08 pm
It's actually a hybrid of the Shuttle's launch design with the Apollo-type capsule, which has been enhanced and made larger.
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #6 on: October 14, 2005, 06:06:58 pm
Exactly.  Solid state rockets; same base principles as 40 years ago.  To me, just slapping a bigger rocket on doesn't constitute a particularly major advance....
 

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Reply #7 on: October 14, 2005, 06:14:01 pm
Who said it was a major advance? :p

It was a good concept then and still is.  The only real reason we started using the shuttle was it's docking bay so if the ruskies started making moves we could have the higher ground.  
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Offline FireCrack

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Reply #8 on: October 14, 2005, 06:15:57 pm
I agree with aldo.
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #9 on: October 14, 2005, 06:17:42 pm
Your post combined with your sig is quite amusing.
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Reply #10 on: October 14, 2005, 07:50:51 pm
If it gets the US back into space, I'll back it.

That's why I cheer every chinese mission that goes up. Each and every one is a slap in NASA, and by extension, the Administration's, collective faces.
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Reply #11 on: October 14, 2005, 07:55:50 pm
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Offline FireCrack

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Reply #12 on: October 14, 2005, 08:39:49 pm
eh?
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
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"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."
 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #13 on: October 14, 2005, 09:12:18 pm
It's a reference to Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" being used to symbolize NASA's, or perhaps humanity's, return to space.
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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Reply #14 on: October 14, 2005, 10:49:05 pm
I wonder if they're gonna do splash-down Apollo style, or something a little more sophisticated.
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Offline FireCrack

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Reply #15 on: October 14, 2005, 10:57:01 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf
It's a reference to Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven" being used to symbolize NASA's, or perhaps humanity's, return to space.


Well.. that much i get... but it just kinda seemed like an odd thing to say...
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."
 

Offline Bobboau

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Reply #16 on: October 14, 2005, 10:57:27 pm
actualy it was an ever more obscure reference to the orbital elivator.
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Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #17 on: October 14, 2005, 10:58:36 pm
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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
I wonder if they're gonna do splash-down Apollo style, or something a little more sophisticated.
They had a glider model (Lockheed Martin, I believe), but I think that lost.
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Reply #18 on: October 14, 2005, 11:15:06 pm
By "a little more sophisticated" I hope you're not expecting more than parachute descent to Vandenburg or somewhere in the Nevada desert.  From what I understand, the thing's a silent nod to the effectiveness of the Soyez.
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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Reply #19 on: October 14, 2005, 11:25:14 pm
Actually, I was thinking someting more like the para-foil design they had planned for the Emergency Crew Return Vehicle before it was scrapped.  The para-foil allows controlled gliding for some distance, and since some of the downward force of the drop is converted into forward momemtum, it should make for a softer, more controlled landing.
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