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Offline NeoHunter

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Basically, this thread is for people with great imagination to come up with explainations of what are shields and what they could be made of and how they work in detail.

Shields are what? Particles? Energy based? How do shield generators project shields around the fighter or bomber?

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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Basically, this thread is for people with great imagination to come up with explainations of what are shields and what they could be made of and how they work in detail.

Shields are what? Particles? Energy based? How do shield generators project shields around the fighter or bomber?


Maybes...

Elctromagnetic field that dissapates and absorbs laser (electro) and missile (magnbetic) impacts.

Just and idea.. i hate physics      

 

Offline Jabu

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aldo got my idea of a particle-repeller shield, for ships travelling at very very high speeds with no 'regular' shields.

Cold plasma, energy, particles, whatever.

 

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As far as IW2 goes, to me a shield is any ship that can be put between your own and the enemy  

 

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Well an idea I have on shields is that there not matter or anti-matter, because the Heilos dose such little shield damage.

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perhaps a field of energy that is resistant to all known forms of energy fire.

I'd like to see new weapons that are on the same wavelength as shields, say over time Shivans adapt to our shielding, that would be cool. itd be like an arm race, new shields new weapons. u get the idea

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Time to ask that agin: Lasers are lihgt, right? So why sunlight isn't stopped by shields?
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Time to ask that agin: Lasers are lihgt, right? So why sunlight isn't stopped by shields?


Because sunlight is not as intense or focused as laser?


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Because sunlight is not as intense or focused as laser?



Then it should be even easier to stop than a laser no?
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Offline Jabu

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Exactly what frequence would laser fire be? Shields could be configured to let through light at wavelenghts of the visible spectrum, and block all others. But that would obviously mean that no heat gets through either. Unless you let that through as well.

Then there's that 'smart shields' theory, where a shield, or it's control system, can determine wheter the photons directed at it are regular light or a high-energy laser blast.

 

Offline NeoHunter

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You know, I once had an idea for early kind of Terran shields for a story I was planning to write but never got down to it.

The idea was that in the early days of space warfare, shields act like shields that knights carry. Not a bubble that covered the entire fighter. If a laser or missile approached towards a fighter from the starboard side, the shield projector would project a "shield" at that direction.  However, the bad part is that it can be easily overwhelmed by mass fire tactics. Something like the voids that the dovin basals on the Yuuzhan Vong fighters and ships do.

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thats how shields worked in IW1

 

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thats how shields worked in IW1

To tell you the truth, I've never played that game before.



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Offline Jabu

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*gasp*

Well, neither have I. I just read that shields bit in IW2.

 

Offline QXMX

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It's possible that FreeSpace Shields are super-strong subspace fields.  It would act like a wall sort of.  There would be a certain threshold that the shield could block, but no more.  That's why they don't block beams, because they're above this energy threshold, so they go right over the wall.  This wouldn't be all encompassing, as shown the shields are sometimes penetrated even though they're still up, which could explain why some sunlight gets though.  Also, missiles would be stopped since the high-energy barrier would short circuit the detonators and cause them to explode at the shield's threshold.  Lastly, the radar that terrans and vasudans use could be set at the right frequency to pass out of the shields.  This barrier must also be one way too, since weapons pass right through them going out.

*phew* That's all I can think of for now    

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Offline NeoHunter

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Okay. Another question is where are the shield projection lens? I mean, to effectively project shields to cover the entire fighter/bomber in a energy bubble, ou would have to have some sort of projector to project the shield around the fighter. I don't see any on ships that have shields. Even the X-Wing's shield projectors are positioned facing the front only.

And if you didn't know, the shield projectors of an X-Wing are situated inside the cylinders that also hold the phi-inverted thrusters near the S-Foils.

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It's possible that FreeSpace Shields are super-strong subspace fields.  It would act like a wall sort of.  There would be a certain threshold that the shield could block, but no more.  That's why they don't block beams, because they're above this energy threshold, so they go right over the wall.  This wouldn't be all encompassing, as shown the shields are sometimes penetrated even though they're still up, which could explain why some sunlight gets though.  Also, missiles would be stopped since the high-energy barrier would short circuit the detonators and cause them to explode at the shield's threshold.  Lastly, the radar that terrans and vasudans use could be set at the right frequency to pass out of the shields.  This barrier must also be one way too, since weapons pass right through them going out.

*phew* That's all I can think of for now    


Yeah, but why a subaspace shield wouldn't work in subspace? Subspace interferes with shields  

Neo, the maps are not detailled enough so you can see those lenses, and maybe it's just an internal device.
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Offline wEvil

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Lets look at the current evidence;

Shields dont stop beam weapons, which are particle accelerators (probably).

Shields are very good at stopping the maxim cannon (a mass driver).

Shields are not so effective at stopping laser based weapons (subach, prometheus etc.)

I would suppose they are a particle barrier or some sort, considering they are a massive energy drain.  Some kind of field holds the particles in place which stops kinetic rounds easily but is not effective against hi-energy lasers/xasers/masers (the ML-16 is a low powered laser and therefore useless against everything)

The high energy of the laser may well disrupt the field holiding the particle mass in place.

This theory is supported by the fact there is a medium to flouresce when an energy input hits the shield.



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Yeah, but why a subaspace shield wouldn't work in subspace? Subspace interferes with shields  
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I was thinking maybe a barrier that's anchored in normal space, kind of like a wave effect or such.  If it comes in contact with something that disrupts normal space(a subspace vortex, or in subspace, where normal space doesn't exist) then the shield will have nothing to anchor to, and won't work.


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Offline NeoHunter

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Actually, I would like to think of shields as made up of invisble matter or particles. These particles or matter are attracted to something like energy or some sort of kinetic force.

When a fighter fires laser blasts at another fighter, the shield particles get attracted to it and start concentrating themselves at the approximate location where the laser is bound to hit the shield. That's why when the laser finally hits the shield, that spot on the shield, or in FreeSpace, shield quadrant lights up because the particles get so concentrated there it becomes visible to the eye.

However, as the shield absorbs more and more lasers and other kinetic weapons, the particles slowly die. That's why the shield "weakens". Only by avoiding getting hit somemore and letting the shield generators regenerate the number of shield particles back to normal proportions will the shield be "strengthened".

What do you guys think of this theory?

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