[Pilot Of The US]

Just wondering if this project is still going? I'd like to help out, but im not really good at much, except for editing pofs and probably basic sound editing. Also, have you guys seen Mulder's Tiger class destroyer yet?

http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1874&page=1

[Raptor]

It's still ticking over in the background.  It doesn't help when there is only one person (me) working on it, and said person can get easily distracted

And yes, the Tiger is going to be included

[Colonol Dekker]

[obvious joke] This better get done soon [/obvious joke]

[Raptor]

[obvious joke] This better get done soon [/obvious joke]

Well, you could always lend a helping hand...

[Colonol Dekker]

I can fred, and make VP's...............obviously i have 3 days left of freedom, then theres an 8 month wait,
I'm giving up xmas, new years and my.my wifes/my kids birthdays......  But i'll be happy to help after all that

[Pilot Of The US]

yep, well I'm officially not doing anything for about a month...at least I'm pretty sure I'm not.

[Getter Robo G]

I wasn't going to mention it, but since Coxxon ok'ed BTRL use of his pack I was going to ask on behalf of the TOS mod. I've been converting them myself independently for my OWN use. Mostly the ones from the rag tag fleet as half of them are from TOS anyway.

Plus I almost got the Defender in game. I think the turrets are the problem.

Geminon frighter, colonial movers, mining ship, prison barge, Celestra (the electronic ship), the Foundry ship (bulk construction), refinery ship (fuel).

Hell seems like we're only missing "The Rising Star" and the fleet is done! 

I DO however like the NEO Shuttle. I never found a TOS one I really liked, and quite frankly its way better. You just use it for people though, not enough room to store a land ram in.

[Raptor]

I wasn't going to mention it, but since Coxxon ok'ed BTRL use of his pack I was going to ask on behalf of the TOS mod. I've been converting them myself independently for my OWN use. Mostly the ones from the rag tag fleet as half of them are from TOS anyway.

Plus I almost got the Defender in game. I think the turrets are the problem.

Geminon frighter, colonial movers, mining ship, prison barge, Celestra (the electronic ship), the Foundry ship (bulk construction), refinery ship (fuel).

Hell seems like we're only missing "The Rising Star" and the fleet is done! 

Yep.  Nearly all the ships in the rag-tag fleet in GINO (aka NuBSG) are straight copies of the ones from the Original series.

I'f you can weddle them out of Omni's hand that would be great.  So far I've been focusing on the Colonial Military ships (and to a lesser extent the Cylons)

This TC ain't dead yet... just very close to it

[bizzybody]

Why there's such problems with the shuttles is the miniature used for the Dykstraflex motion control camera shots was at least 2x as long in scale as the "full size" stage prop shuttle.

Soo the little shuttle is the properly proportioned version. The same shuttle was used in the Buck Rodgers series* and the original Viper design was also revamped for BR.

*ISTR it in the episode with the little blue guy, the nasty disembodied sword-thing in the cave and the man with a removable head. The shuttle sank in a quicksand pit- just like the plot of that episode.

[karajorma]

Yep.  Nearly all the ships in the rag-tag fleet in GINO (aka NuBSG) are straight copies of the ones from the Original series.

I'f you can weddle them out of Omni's hand that would be great.  So far I've been focusing on the Colonial Military ships (and to a lesser extent the Cylons)

This TC ain't dead yet... just very close to it

You've got no hope of getting hold of BtRL models before we release them officially. After the alpha leak we've been really paranoid about letting stuff get out again. Leting a whole different mod whose staff we've not vetted have access to the models is pretty much out of the question.

To be honest I still have no idea why you aren't working with the BtRL team and making this into a BtRL mod. It's not like we aren't going to build virtually every ship in TOS anyway. Our own rag tag fleet is virtually the same as yours and the TOS Raider, Viper and Basestar are all nBSG canon too. So you could instead spend your time working on a highpoly TOS Galactica and simply use that and a few new weapons effects without a massive duplication of effort.

Not to mention the fact that if you don't do it as a BtRL mod it's likely that someone will anyway cause as I said they'd only need a few mods.

[Lt.Cannonfodder]

Listen to kara Raptor, concentrate your efforts on creating a fantastic top-quality original Galactica model which you can then port into BtRL. As kara said, no sense in doing the same work twice.

You might be interested in this: http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3073

I released the lod0 of our new Colonial Movers so people could practice their texturing skills with it. It might be of use to you

[Raptor]

To be honest I still have no idea why you aren't working with the BtRL team and making this into a BtRL mod.

Ummm... jeolousy?   Omni appears to crank out a fully textured 15K poly ship in a couple of days, and me?  Couple of years...

It doesn't help that I can't stand GINO's plot, characters or nearly all the new ship designs.  The original Viper was class, sleek and deadly.  The new Mk 2... I'd rather not say anything.  To say nothing of the Mk 7.  First time I saw the new Galactica I thought 'What the hell have they done to her!?!'  They turned a sleek, lean vessel into a ribbed collection of bubbles.

However, I do know and understand that the above is my own opinion, and that others may and don't share my views.  That's the thing about design... it's all a matter of perspective.

I am willing to discuss a sharing of models and effort however.

And just to let you all know, I've just started trying getting the battlestar in game.  My aim is to get all the ships in at least an ALPHA version, so that all the balancing issues can be worked out, and then while missions are being built go back to the ship models and bring them up to scratch.

[IPAndrews]

An original BSG mod wouldn't work as an extention to BTRL. BTRL has things like "realism" and "physics".  What you really need is lots of Stu Phillips fanfare music, wobbly sound effects, and Cylon raiders dying by the thousand. Oh wait new BSG has that too!

Raptor. If you're looking for rag tag fleet ships there are a few out there downloadable. The poly counts aren't that bad either. Sean Kennedy has a Valley Forge (Colonial Agro ship) mesh you could hunt out but you'd need to throw together a lower poly version of that.

[Getter Robo G]

I already have them from Dk the same person who released the SG-1 meshes. (BC my home away from home almost) So your Alpha and improvements are safe.

In a few days I will be working on pof-ing the .cobs I made out of the .nif's. TGA's have to be converted to bmp's so you can work on them as cob's, but 3dexploration does that no problem (just click "save all textures as bmp" and choose a subfolder for easy organization). I then make a sub folder in there called PCX and that's the place I save the initial .pof and pcx images.

That's the process used for the alpha's of the Stargate Meshes.

The Icons can be altered with contrast and reduced in size for the shield icon display.

Status of TOS design Protector so far:


PCS crashes, MV worked but when you open the pof it says "too many normals defined". Since complete it's like 7k+ poly's removing the original guns and either reattaching them as "turrets" might help, or simply use slightly lower poly ones might do the trick.

Keep in mind no one is getting this in FS2 format (or any other ship of the pack) from me anyway, unless I get the ok from DK, ATM this is a personal WIP. I am talking to him soon with feedback about the SG-1 meshes and hopefully he'll greenlight their logical use for a TOS mod.


Raptor, IP and everyone else:

   What the hell are you all going on about? This is not a race and "jealousy" has no place in modding. Like it or hate it NBSG is a blockbuster hit and is established now and that's that. Likewise TOS was a hit in it's day (and just like Enterprise MORONS drove it to an early death). TOS also deserves representation because consider, without TOS, RDM would have to "re-imaging" something else...

 

   *Grabs gun* "RDM, put him down and step away from Buck Rogers, slowly!" 


[EDIT]: Sacrificial lambs sent along with update to Dave. Depending on his reaction to my paltry conversion attempts hopefully we'll get a positive response fairly soon... So do whatever it is you people do for luck, etc...

[Raptor]

Didn't you mean to say 'Defender' GRG, like it says in the pic?

I'm not going to say why I think NuBSG is successful... If I do I'll most likely get flamed

Nice looking Defender, except... how does it contain 11.6K ploys?  There must be a lot of small details that we can't see from that pic... or it's triangulated like crazy.

An original BSG mod wouldn't work as an extention to BTRL. BTRL has things like "realism" and "physics". 

"realism"?  These people have the ability to travel dozens of light years in seconds, artificial gravity... and they are still using bullets on their warships?

Oh wait, you mean 'realism' as in the people on board said ships are all unlikeable drunks/egomaniacs/prima-donas/nymphomaniacs or just down right crazy.

What happened to real heroes, like Wise & Fatherly Adama, Honourable & Self-Sacrificing Apollo or Sturbuck, the wisecracking ladies man who you want to shoot sometimes but can always be counted on to get you out of a tight spot?

[IPAndrews]

Raptor seems to have forgotten that I love 70s Galactica, which is quite amusing 

[Getter Robo G]

Yeah, hadn't eaten yet and brain farted. It's a defender... No word yet (I hate holidays!)  I am off till tuesday night and still bored and my armed ship now won't convert!!!

HEy Raptor, I got a RT Ikazuchi that I gto in game but now that I armed it with 54 turrets in says "Too many chunks" in modelview and PCS just crashes to desktop...

can you look at this? Do I need to start taking guns off?

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Star-Dragon/ikazuchi.jpg

http://upload2.net/page/download/K6AUy9YYZtfE12I/Ikazuchi.rar.html
(note it's 3ds cause Axem tried to look at it and couldn't load cob so we tried lwo and one other format first and I an too tired to reconvert it to .cob again....

[Unknown Target]

An original BSG mod wouldn't work as an extention to BTRL. BTRL has things like "realism" and "physics".  What you really need is lots of Stu Phillips fanfare music, wobbly sound effects, and Cylon raiders dying by the thousand. Oh wait new BSG has that too!

Raptor. If you're looking for rag tag fleet ships there are a few out there downloadable. The poly counts aren't that bad either. Sean Kennedy has a Valley Forge (Colonial Agro ship) mesh you could hunt out but you'd need to throw together a lower poly version of that.

I don't see any reason that the original BSG couldn't fit into the BTRL mod, or at least as a seperate mod on the BTRL release.

[Getter Robo G]

I can see it as a sub mod, not a direct one... But that's irrelevant ATM.

  I think it's a foregone conclusion that BTRL would have been released long before this mod would be in any condition for viewing as a whole (and so small no demo would be necessary) but that's just my opinion.

I think Raptor also forgot IP made the initial TOS mod.  ( ) Which provided the inspiration for us to try seperate dabblings...

It's all good though.  BTW I lost my internet since my last post and dealt with Eastern people on HP customer service line (HOLY FRACKING SHEET!) They really are stereotypes! Just like Foamy showed us when he called customer support. These people know NOTHING and it would have cost me $45.00 to talk to a technician to find the solution to an issue that I KNEW what the problem was and what I needed to solve it..

"Can't you just give me the 4 sets of numbers I need so I can get back on the internet?"

"Thank you call anytime, bye."

WTF... (Asshats)...

Comcast saved the day though (and why I go without to afford high speed (mostly, giggle) internet!

[Raptor]

Raptor seems to have forgotten that I love 70s Galactica, which is quite amusing 

Huh?  How you figure that?  I know you're the founder of the BSG TOS TC.  I was having a poke at GINO.

Heck, your Galactica model is the most accurate I've seen yet!  Okay, there are still a couple of faults on the bow/head, but everybody gets that section partly wrong.  SteveW, the man whose models I'm using as the starting point for the rest of the fleet, got it quite wrong.  It fits with the rest of the shiping as he made them, but it's not really a battlestar.

@GRG: I can take a look, but I'm not really the guy to go to with bugs.  I'm a turret-master, yes, but I can't promise anything...

[EDIT]Just had a look at the posted file... Could you post the Cob as well?  The 3ds format appears to seperate all the textures into seperate objects...