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Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #20 on: October 18, 2005, 09:28:07 am
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I've always wondered if legal full WinXP CDs actually exist.
I have a legal XP Pro OEM CD. Full OS with the exception of the "upgrade" option on install, as its designed to be sold with new PCs only.
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Offline Fury

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Reply #21 on: October 18, 2005, 09:45:39 am
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Solaris it's self doesn't support dual booting i believe, but you can setup windows OS boot menu to let you select between the solaris and windows boot.


Nice Guide to Mulit-Boot Solaris/Windows

Thanks, I should remember this when I am considering playing around with some new OS. :)
 

Offline aldo_14

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Reply #22 on: October 18, 2005, 09:53:20 am
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I've always wondered if legal full WinXP CDs actually exist.


I have one (at work) although I think a lot of people ended up using a crack because of difficulties validating their copies.  In particular absolutely none of the XP Pro CDs seem to have product keys that work, despite me spending the best part of a morning shimmying around the office reading keys of machines.

Except for the one disc which we still have the proper product key ID'd for, which has been installed about 6 times in the month or so i've been here and thus requires going through the bloody MS helpdesk every time.
 

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Reply #23 on: October 18, 2005, 10:00:26 am
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Solaris it's self doesn't support dual booting i believe, but you can setup windows OS boot menu to let you select between the solaris and windows boot.


Nice Guide to Mulit-Boot Solaris/Windows


gold. thanks, darky.
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Offline Inquisitor

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Reply #24 on: October 18, 2005, 04:13:21 pm
Gak, I totally forgot about knoppix when my laptop OS drive took a crap....

*smacks head*
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Reply #25 on: October 18, 2005, 04:31:58 pm
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I was actually hoping to try something not-linux this time, but if I do go for a linux distro, I do want something secure. And the last time I tried Linux, I got my MBR so borked I needed to go back to the shop to get the HD (and MBR) zeroed out.

Mikhael: What hardware do I lack? The RAM seems plentifull, and the CPU isn't the slowest one on earth either. I'm not going to run this rig as a full time webserver, the only thing it'll do is run an FTP server on the web so I can get my files from afar, and an HTTP/PHP/MySQL for local testing.

I explained it in the "The Trouble With Linux" thread. You lack the required number of hard drives.
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Reply #26 on: October 18, 2005, 04:43:59 pm
In the words of one of my housemates: "needs moar disk"

To be honest, Linux is best when you've got one small partition for the base system, one large one for /usr (>80GB), and one fair-sized one for home directories (>20GB).

If you want to run an FTP/Web server, make it a dedicated box and put /home, /usr and base system on the same 8GB partition, then mount dedicated partitions on /www and /ftp.
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Reply #27 on: October 18, 2005, 05:32:27 pm
more like "Needs more discs". When dual booting, always have THREE drives. Physical drives. One drive for each OS, and one drive for data. Period. Anything less is begging for trouble the like of which WMCoolman discribed.
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Offline Descenterace

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Reply #28 on: October 19, 2005, 01:23:35 am
While that's no problem for me (I have a large number of spare disks lying around) not everyone has three disks in their machine.

The general rule is, install Windows first, then install Linux. I don't know the particulars of every distro re: handling of the MBR, but Debian has never b0rked WinXP on my systems.

Quite the opposite, in fact...

It's well worth learning how to use the GRUB command line if you don't have seperate disks for each OS. Otherwise you might find yourself unable to get the damn thing working again when you FIXMBR.
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Reply #29 on: October 19, 2005, 02:23:58 am
All OS's can be free if you know where to get them. :D
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #30 on: October 19, 2005, 02:36:32 am
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more like "Needs more discs". When dual booting, always have THREE drives. Physical drives. One drive for each OS, and one drive for data. Period. Anything less is begging for trouble the like of which WMCoolman discribed.


After going through one spot of MBR issues, I can see the point there.

I always felt quite safe running WinXP on the same drive as my data, as long as its not the same partition. If I managed to get another fast drive in there (not 5400 RPM), would it be worth the trouble to install BSD, Solaris or Linux?
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Reply #31 on: October 19, 2005, 06:56:55 pm
If you're going to mix OSes on one physical drive, do like I did.

Partition the drive in three parts (two small ones for your OSes, one for your data). Install FreeBSD to the second partition (the third will be your data drive). Then install Windows to the first partition.

BUT WAIT! Didn't we just overwrite FreeBSDs bootloader?! Yes. We did. On purpose. The next bit gets technical. You need to copy the second stage boot file from your FreeBSD CD as a binary file called 'bootsect.bsd' into your WindowsXP C: drive's root directory. Once you've done that, you edit the Windows boot.ini to give an option to start from bootsect.bsd. Et voila. From then on, you don't have anything to worry about, except large, lost interstellar starships manned by nutzoid robots and talking bombs.
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Offline Fury

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Reply #32 on: October 19, 2005, 11:03:25 pm
Talking of BSD, I'm rather interested in PC-BSD-project and planning to try it out once it reaches 1.0 final.
http://www.pcbsd.org/
 

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Reply #33 on: October 20, 2005, 12:02:58 am
Honestly, I wouldn't touch any BSD that wasn't FreeBSD, OpenBSD or NetBSD until they were at least on a second release.
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #34 on: October 20, 2005, 04:11:24 am
I might try what you suggested, Mikhael.
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