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Offline Scottish

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Although supposedly one of the great questions of metaphysics the "If a tree fell down..." question only exists to seperate those who understand the subject at hand from those who are merely parrotting the ideas that they

a) Have never thought about or
b) Are in capable of understanding.

Anyone who believes whether the tree made a noise or not is a valid question obviously does not.

Or maybe that'd just what they told you because they felt bad telling you you were just plain wrong.


"If you think A, go left. If you think B, go right..."

A think they're great. B think they're great. Both sides think the other side were misled.

And all the while, I'm standing in a little circle labelled 'C', coordinating the destruction of the rainforest.

  

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Scottish that reminds me of what a Vorlon once said - "The truth is a three edge sword: your side, their side, and the truth"

Your Side = 1 googleplex lightyears from 'the truth'
Our side = 1 lightyear from the truth

i choose ourside
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Or maybe that'd just what they told you because they felt bad telling you you were just plain wrong.


Or maybe you're just talking bollocks because you don't have the faintest clue what I meant.
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Scottish that reminds me of what a Vorlon once said - "The truth is a three edge sword: your side, their side, and the truth"

Your Side = 1 googleplex lightyears from 'the truth'
Our side = 1 lightyear from the truth

i choose ourside
It's impossible to determine what the truth is if we do not have an unbiased view.  We can only see a very small fraction of the universe. Claiming we even know which way truth tends is a feat of ego without equal.
You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" -George Bernard Shaw

 

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Yes it does.

As you learn, things are integrated into your memory next-to other things you associate with it. This forms a huge, complicated web.

Stimuli start an electrical impulse. It then progresses through your brain, starting at the memory-point of whatever you saw/hear/tasted/whatever, following the 'train of thought' through several associated memory pieces till it eventually ends up in one of the action-memory portions of your mind. At which time a response is triggered.

Okay, we haven't gotten anywhere with that. You're just rattling off neurological principles concerning cognition. Who is intelligent? What faculties set the standard? Analytical? Social? Mathematic? Linguistic? The point I was originally making, (ages ago seemingly), was that when we're discussing world issues, we just throw around this vague, generic word that splits people into those who will understand and those who won't. But the different ways in which "intelligence" manifests itself would indicate that this is a simplistic view.

Kazan, normally I would just forget it, but I really must know what makes a question of perception antiquated.
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Scottish that reminds me of what a Vorlon once said - "The truth is a three edge sword: your side, their side, and the truth"

Your Side = 1 googleplex lightyears from 'the truth'
Our side = 1 lightyear from the truth

i choose ourside

I choose truth.

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Or maybe you're just talking bollocks because you don't have the faintest clue what I meant.

Maybe I know exactly what you mean, but I'm subtely ridiculing you.

 
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I choose truth.


 


Didn't you pay attention?

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Claiming we even know which way truth tends is a feat of ego without equal.

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And?

Just because I have a huge ego doesn't make me any less right.

It's like going:

< Scott> The sky is blue!
< Retard> YOU HAVE BIG HANDS, SO THE SKY IS PINK!

 

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Maybe I know exactly what you mean, but I'm subtely ridiculing you.


I doubt it. Even if you were you'd be failing at it spectacularly cause you're only making yourself look like a fool in front of the other board members by doing it.

Or do you dislike them all too? :lol:
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Urgh. I'd've thought my opinions of this place and it's members would've been made abundantly clear by now.

Christ, you people are slow on the uptake.

Actually, I might go draw some diagrams. Maybe that'd help?

 

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If it gets you banned faster I'm all for it. Knock yourself out.
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Okay, gimme like....10 minutes.

I need to put the diagrams in the proper context.

 

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Scottish you're more arrogant than Mongoose and liberator - and that's saying a lot


You have no evidence to back up your position - therefore you are delusional to consider yourself right

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All will make sense in about....2 minutes maybe.

 

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Ok, as amusing as this was over the first couple pages, this has reached pointlessness.  Thread closed.  If you have any issues my PM box is always open.
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