[Carl]

as we all know, when a ship warps in or out it creates a hole into subspace and looking through it you see the inside of subspace: blue and wavy. but what about when you jump out at the knossos? it's green! subspace isn't green, it's blue! it must not be normal subspace. so what is it? maybe, just maybe, the subspace the knossos uses is a special kind of artifical subspace. any thoughts?

[Setekh]

It could be the same subspace, but all that wierd stuff going on about the mechanism of the Knossos could twist stuff around and give it a different colour - at least to viewers.

The question is, what is all that wierd stuff?

[Culloden]

Hmm, that's a puzzler for sure. But if couours = different subspaces, then there are acctually at least three!

 

From the Freespace Referance Bible regarding the Lucifers arrival during the Tombough Station Attack:
Over her shoulder we see a huge warp tunnel begin to appear.  It’s blood red and much larger than any subspace hole’s seen so far.  The crew gasps in shock, wondering what it is.

[Neon]

Well... Teories say that shivans don't need subspace nodes. If so, why not different colors? Kinda of the knossos! It's an artificial subspace node! Why not a different color?

[Neon]

And by the way... I don't why I put an a after the kind...

[Raven2001]

Warning!!! P1mp time!!!!

In Caught in the middle you will see a new color  

Any speculation???

[Stryke 9]

Lavender and pink, I'll bet. With a big picture of Barbara Streisand in the middle  

[Carl]

 

Originally posted by Neon:
It's an artificial subspace node! Why not a different color?

because the node leads into subspace. the blue stuff you see as the node is subspace, so green node=green subspace and since subspace is a dimension then green subspace is a different dimension.

[Carl]

 

From the Freespace Referance Bible regarding the Lucifers arrival during the Tombough Station Attack:
Over her shoulder we see a huge warp tunnel begin to appear. It’s blood red and much larger than any subspace hole’s seen so far. The crew gasps in shock, wondering what it is.

but we know from the Ross 128 attack that the Lucifer's node is blue. when it comes to being Canon, the game > the Refrence Bible.

[This message has been edited by Carl (edited 09-08-2001).]

[Setekh]

 

Originally posted by Carl:
 but we know from the Ross 128 attack that the Lucifer's node is blue. when it comes to being Canon, the game > the Refrence Bible.

Well, it's blue in the entire of FS1 too. But it could have used a different drive to generate the red one. Maybe the red drive is the one used when there is no node around, and hence uses more energy to activate, and hence is used less often - meaning when they can use the normal blue one, they will. Two subspace drives.

[Carl]

cool! so there are 3 subspaces! possibly many more. perhaps an infinite amout.

[Neon]

Who knows? Shivan's are way too misterious!  

[YodaSean]

Could you jump into sub-subspace?  As in a subspace inside subspace?

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[Pegasus V]

 

Originally posted by YodaSean:
Could you jump into sub-subspace?  As in a subspace inside subspace?

You wouldn't be able to jump into a subspace of a subspace, but you could jump from one subspace to another subspace theoretically.

However, we used to think atoms were the smallest things, but then we discovered sub-atomic particles. So maybe their could be a sub-subspace.

[Setekh]

Sub-subspace... now we're talking about something that advanced races would use.  

[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Setekh:
Sub-subspace... now we're talking about something that advanced races would use.  

hum, yup, but what for?  

[Slasher]

I've always believed that as the GTVA's technology advanced they would find new and better (or worse, depending on how you look at it) ways to use and manipulate subspace.  

Among other things, a "sub-subspace" might offer even faster travel within "normal subspace".  A jump from Delta S. to Sol takes approximately 10 minutes which are spent inside a subspace corridor.  Imagine entering an underlying layer of "sub-subspace" to go even faster.  Yeah, I know, it's a wild and ridiculous sounding idea, but I never said I was a scientist.  

Another thing subspace could be used for is wanton destruction.  If the GTVA could somehow harness the power of subspace in such a way that they could open a subspace jump node by remote, at a predetermined location, it could cause chaos in enemy lines.  Imagine a specially modified Hades warship, equipped with some impressive, top secret subspace device that could rip open subspace wherever it wanted to.  Suppose it targeted the center of mass of an Orion-class destroyer and opened a subspace node right in the middle of it.  A subspace node no different than those ships use to commence regular jumps, only without a ship jumping into it.  If used correctly, it could be more devestating than all the beam weapons on the Colossus combined.  Or, if you wanted to go for superdestruction, how about opening multiple doors to subspace inside a star.  It's quite possible it would substantually alter the mass of the star in question, maybe even going as far as to destablize it.  The impilcations of such a horrendous event would be catastrophic for the inhabitants of the system.

Oh, and on a side note, I find this    to be quite disgusting.

Just kidding.  

[aldo_14]

In 'The Ghost and the Darkness',  I had the idea that intense gravity fields could be used to prevent subspace nodes forming except where Knossos-type devices have been used, and that similar tech could be used to create a gravity based beam that could stabilise nodes, collapse existing ones (stretching the affected ships through several light years of subspace corridor)...

this was all supposed to have originated from the destruction of a Shivan super destroyer that could create and hold nodes using it's own beam cannon 10 years earlier...

[Setekh]

Well, sub-subspace - yes, it would make travel even faster. Travelling through subspace allows ships to bypass a huge amount of normal space. Similarly, travelling through sub-subspace would allow ships to bypass huge amounts of subspace - resulting in faster travel. So you'd probably jump into subspace and from there, jump into sub-subspace.

Man, we really need a new name for sub-subspace. Infraspace? (That is just another word for sub in latin.) Or valdesubspace - valde (pronounced volder) means powerful, or very. Veespace...

[Setekh]

 

Originally posted by Slasher:
Or, if you wanted to go for superdestruction, how about opening multiple doors to subspace inside a star.  It's quite possible it would substantually alter the mass of the star in question, maybe even going as far as to destablize it.  The impilcations of such a horrendous event would be catastrophic for the inhabitants of the system.

Actually, this is a pretty cool idea. I think the Stargate team used it - they opened a wormhole to some place and then sent a Stargate (from a Goa'uld warship) into a star.