[Grass69er]

hi all,
Just a question about the Freespace 2 ship list in the tech area.
is there any way to get it to display every ship in the game?
ok I'm at the mission where ya gotta go after the NTF iceni and your in the nebuae, and the shivans are there trying to destroy it.
anyway some of the ships i've encounted are'nt showing up in the Ship list, I've spoken to someone else who's played through the game and he says the ships that are'nt showing up on my list showed up on his when he played through the game. anyway is this something that can be fixed or something I need to do or can I just do something that will make every ship in the game appear on there?
thanks all.

GRASS!

[Taristin]

The ship list is controlled by the campaign file, and mission SEXP's. When a certain mission is completed, more ships are added to the tech room. It's part of command's way of keeping you in the dark about of stuff. By the time you finish the campaign, however, all vessels should be listed. As well as all weapons.


On the other hand, WMCoolmon (I believe) made a proggy called CSGEdit. It allows you to alter the player CSG file in the data\player\single\  folder  of your FS2 Directory. If you have the ships.tbl file in the same directory as CSGEdit, it'll let you pick more ships to add into the techroom. But that's for people who know what they're doing. Otherwise you could mess up the campaign file, and it'll no longer be playable.

Also:

Originally posted by redsniper

WELCOME TO THE HLPBB!!!
[wiki] Grass69er[/wiki]
*ahem*
Exits are to the sides and rear. Personal flamethrowers are located under the seats, but they're probably full of  soda right now. Don't go crawling through the air vents as they're infested with Shivans. However, if you do encounter any Shivans, it's just Carl. Give him your lunch and run away. Plasma rifles are located in the lockers up front. However these can only be opened by [V], God, an Admin, or a hyperintelligent shade of the color blue. Do not try to enter the control room as it is guarded by subspatial claymore mines. Thank you, and enjoy your stay!
*passes out from lack of 0^2*

[Grass69er]

thanks,
I accepted that intelligence assignment ya know where ya gotta inflitrate the NTF, but I only got up to the 2nd mission, those awac's are like papercups, anyway these ships have'nt been added to my list but I've seen them ingame.
terran ships 1st-
GTC Aeolus
GTA Charybdis (AWAC)
GTF Erinyes
GTD Hades (wondering does this ship ever get on ya list?)
Vasudan ships-
GVG Anuket
GVA Setekh
GVB Bakha
GVB Sekhmet
shivan ships-
SCv Moloch
SD Demon
SD Lucifer
SF Dragon
SF Manticore
SF Basilisk
SB Taurvi
SF Aeshma
SB Nahema

BTW is it just me or does the SJ Sathanas seem abit weak, I was expecting it to go on a rampage like the SD Lucifer did in FS1.
ok it took the GTVA Colossus to destroy it, but still the SD Lucifer had more of a unstoppable nature to it.

GRASS!

[Falcon]

The Sathanas Juggernaught isn't weak.

[Grass69er]

Originally posted by Falcon
The Sathanas Juggernaught isn't weak.

ok it's four beam cannons are pretty damn powerful, but my bomber got those realatively easy, sure there were flak turrets there but not the sorta defense I was expecting. yea the ship looks quite terrifying, but with it's 4 main beam cannons gone it's not as strong. the SD Lucifer had a impentable shield, it was more terrfifing in a way cos it was almost impossible to kill.

GRASS!

[redsniper]

@ Raa

[Taristin]

I couldn't be bothered to type it all, so I quoted you, and changed the name to Grass69er...

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Grass69er
ok it's four beam cannons are pretty damn powerful, but my bomber got those realatively easy, sure there were flak turrets there but not the sorta defense I was expecting. yea the ship looks quite terrifying, but with it's 4 main beam cannons gone it's not as strong. the SD Lucifer had a impentable shield, it was more terrfifing in a way cos it was almost impossible to kill.

Keep playing I don't want to spoil the surprise for you

[TopAce]

Haven't you completed the whole campaign yet?

[jdjtcagle]

Kara: w-w-what... what surprise

[TopAce]

Let's guess this guy has not yet completed the campaign. What's the surprise, then?

[Janos]

Hey you know when the ancients come and you realize that for all the time you have actually been fighting the good guys (NTF is actually Sol's cover), the REAL surprises will appear.

You think there was only one Lucifer?!=?!??! ZOMG

[Moonsword]

Congratulations, you have won the 'Mislead the Newbie' award of the minute.

Don't listen to the boy in the little bomber (check your title, Janos).  There's a surprise, but that's not quite it...

Just wait.  All will be revealed, in the Light of the Destroyers...

[Darkage]

jdjtcagle: Never knew i was in your siggy:D

proberly to drunk to have noticed:D

[jdjtcagle]

 Yes, you must of had one hell of a night

[Grass69er]

ok I just found out there are tons more juggernaughts, one just fried that Vasudan destroyer in the Lupus nebuae, plus you also find that other portal.
now ya gotta save the GTD Aquitaine from a shivan attack, you gotta wait for it to be repaired, the GTC Agrippa a Aeolus-class warship helps protect the transport develivering the repair team.
I still don't have the GTC Aeolus and the SCv Moloch on my tech room ship list yet, I've encounted both ships quite a few times, does anyone know in what missions do ya get these two?

GRASS!

[jdjtcagle]

Don't know I was too hooked on those missions to care about the techroom

[karajorma]

Kind of wish I'd put the details of when ships were added to the techroom into that table that said when weapons and ships were allowed. Would have been so easy to do and all.

[TopAce]

Not all ships are listed in the tech room, even if you often meet them.

[Grass69er]

Originally posted by TopAce
Not all ships are listed in the tech room, even if you often meet them.

with old ships from FS1 I can understand, but new ships in FS2 come on they gotta show all of those.
GTC Aeolus
SCv Moloch
GTA Charybdis (AWAC)
GVA Setekh (AWAC)
GVG Anuket (gasminer)
like those ones which are new in FS2.
remember in FS1 all ships encounted were placed in the ship list, should be the same in FS2.

GRASS!