[Setekh]

 

Originally posted by joek:
Ah man! Now it looks like I'm going to have to remap and change around some of the fiction/placenames in my campaign. I've got Beta Pic as having life (next to Epsilon Eridani without any), and now it looks like I'll have to reverse that or something...

... or should I just do like Volition and change facts for fiction?

Well, there always holes in the system. Just say that 'so-and-so was unaccounted for' or 'there was a flaw in the calculation process', and hey presto, life wherever you want it.  

[Xelion]

This is a site you've gotta to have a look at, theres just so many sites out there with heaps of stuff but you have to process all of it. Thats the only catch
 http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/stars.htm

Max  
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[Eishtmo]

 

Originally posted by Shrike:
Geez, I found it on a starmap..... can't you?    

Yeah, but you haven't found anything else on it, now have you?

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[Ace]

What Joe says sounds good to me  

Ace, Volition does have Nasa Technical advisers even though most information is made up by fictional writers. They have advisers so the game is a little more realistic. They advise on particular information like the physics, astronomy, etc only when Volition requests it though.

Whatever you say Max, please E-Mail [email protected] and ask how many NASA technical advisors Volition had to check the facts in FS to make it "a little more realistic" as you said  

Now Adam Pletcher did say a long time ago on the FUDL that they did have a physics professor (or a pure doctor, forgot which but it was on the FUDL... or was it the VBB?   ) check up on their equations to help out with the FS engine.

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[Xelion]

No probs!

[Pegasus V]

 

Originally posted by Max:
Pegasus V did you say you got all that info from a book, because I have yet to see stuff like that too easily produced in one place. Oh by the way if your an astrophysicist shouldn't you have many sources to acquire such information on most systems.

Thanks for finding that info Max, but as I stated in my last post, I didn't get time to look it up (Delta Serpentis). I only listed ones that I knew 'off heart', and when I'm talking about books I mean that I have a compilation of up-to-date documents that all Astrophysists should have... I just used them for exact specifications and a couple of things I forgot.

 

Originally posted by joek:
... or should I just do like Volition and change facts for fiction?.

Personally, I think you should change it and make it accurate, but I don't speak for everyone.

 

Originally posted by Jabu:
Alpha Centauri (10) - But that again is quite worrying... you don't happen to possess any really advanced sensors or interstellar flight, do you?.

I think it's amazing that the most likely system that could support an M-class planet is our closest neighbour.

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I hope all this information helps you out Shadowman.


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[Xelion]

By the way Pegasus V you mentioned earlier that Barnard’s Star could not support a terrestrial body and just 5 minutes ago i found a site that said it could with a small explanation why!

You also said you done astrophysics at Curtain Uni, did you know a John Fedec there?

Max  
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[This message has been edited by Max (edited 09-06-2001).]

[Culloden]

Try something like Red Shift 4 or Starynight. We got Spectral Type, which leads to a rough idea of it's diameter, mass, surface temperature, composition, absolute visual magnitude, and a couple of others I think such as it's eventual fate. Also, distance from the Sun can be worked out with almost any Star Chart worth it's weight.

Red Shift 4 - A wonderful, yet cheap piece of Astronomy Software that has a ton of info within it. I got it for just £19.99.

[Pegasus V]

 

Originally posted by Max:
By the way Pegasus V you mentioned earlier that Barnard’s Star could not support a terrestrial body and just 5 minutes ago i found a site that said it could with a small explanation why!

You also said you done astrophysics at Curtain Uni, did you know a John Fedec there?

I would like to see this explanation... Can you direct me to it? But honestly, there is no way (using our current theories) that an M-class planet could exist with life there. It's just too cold.

No, I never met anyone by the name of John Fedec at Uni... Why?

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[Ace]

Quick question, why the bleep are Terran type worlds "Class M" in Star Trek?

You'd think it would be "Class A" since that's where life is  

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[Pegasus V]

 

Originally posted by Ace:
Quick question, why the bleep are Terran type worlds "Class M" in Star Trek?

You'd think it would be "Class A" since that's where life is  

To clarify things, the term Class M isn't just used in Star Trek, it is a common term in Astronomy these days. The M was used because classes A to L were already used way back in the 50's. Back then most astronomers were too narrow sited to believe that there could be another Earth-like planet out there, that's why A wasn't their first choice.

I've just compiled a list of star systems that are likely to have a habitable zone in a 30LY radius of Sol:

• Rigel Kentaurus (Alpha Centauri)
  
• Epsilon Eridani
• Procyon
• 61 Cygni (Extra Solar planets already discovered)
• Epsilon Indi
• Tua Ceti
• Groombridge 1618
• Keid (has a White Dwarf companion though)
• 70 Ophiuchi
• Sigma Draconis
• Gliese 570
• Eta Cassiopeiae
  
• 36 Ophiuchi
• J. Herschel 5173
• 82 Eridani
  
• Delta Pavonis
  
• Gliese 892
• Xi Bootis
  
• Gliese 667
• Gliese 105
• Gliese 33
• 107 Piscis
• Beta Hydri
• Mu Cassiopeiae
• TW Piscis Austrini
• Gliese 673
• Pi Orionis
• Chi Draconis
• Gliese 884
• P Eridani
• Asterion
  
• Mu Herculis
• 61 Virginis (Extrasolar Planet already detected)
  
• Zeta Tucanae
• Gliese 250
• Gliese 666
• Gliese 183
• Gliese 785
• Wolf 46
• Gamma Leporis
• Beta Comae Berenices
  
• CF Ursae Majoris
• Kappa Ceti
  

Bold Denotes Higher Chances.

[Xelion]

Well John would have finished Astrophysics about the same time you would have or early but he dropped out I think in the 2nd year because he knew there wouldn't be any work in WA. So his chosen something else.

Heres the link though the way I view our current theories based on most topics are likely to be missing a few points, its just all speculation. What your taught now might be different in the future. So not until were actually out there in space exploring we don't know the environments which planets can form in!
 http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/starlog/strclos.html#c4

Max  
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[Pegasus V]

 

Originally posted by Max:
Well John would have finished Astrophysics about the same time you would have or early but he dropped out I think in the 2nd year because he knew there wouldn't be any work in WA. So his chosen something else.

I remember a few people dropping out in the 2nd year, but I didn't really socialise with many people at uni, so I can't really remember if one of those people could have been him. Is he a friend of yours? I was thinking of dropping out each semester, but everytime I thought to myself well I've got this far, I should finish it now...

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[Xelion]

His my brother but its good you finished your Degree because it's quite interesting and worth the effort. He plays a lot of chess, that should be a big hint!

Oh look what I've found  
 http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/space/10/06/space.planets.reut/index.html  

Max  
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[Pegasus V]

your brother? cool!

Sorry, still doesn't ring a bell...

Where do you live?

[Xelion]

Midland/Midvale; its near Ace Cinemas

[Shrike]

 

Originally posted by Pegasus V:
To clarify things, the term Class M isn't just used in Star Trek, it is a common term in Astronomy these days. The M was used because classes A to L were already used way back in the 50's. Back then most astronomers were too narrow sited to believe that there could be another Earth-like planet out there, that's why A wasn't their first choice.

I still think it sounds silly.    And to tell you the truth, I've never ran into that nomenclature except in star trek....

[Pegasus V]

 

Originally posted by Shrike:
I still think it sounds silly.      And to tell you the truth, I've never ran into that nomenclature except in star trek....

You don't get out much then do you? I think it sounds silly to and I think they should reformat it, but they won't (not at least for a while yet anyway).

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[Shrike]

Hmmm, well seeing as every site I found called it the 'ST classification method' and didn't give any references to an actual scientific classification method, I have my doubts about it.  In fact, one website even had canon examples and hypothetical examples.

Here's one that's just an unofficial but much better.  Click

[Shadowman]

AHEM!!

Can we keep this thread at least partly on topic pls      

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