[WMCoolmon]

Mostly they don't spin because the math involved gives me a headache. I think all of the missiles (at least, nearly all) are not centered on the model itself in the POF file...instead they're centered on the entire model, so usually the center is about where the thruster is. As a result they look kind of silly spinning around, off-center.

[Carl]

how many polygons are we talking abou there? i don't want my FPS to drop dramatically every time i fire dual stillettos.

[FireCrack]

"there" is a model for the loadout screen(~1000 polies), the ingame model will be nice + low poly.

[StratComm]

Mostly they don't spin because the math involved gives me a headache. I think all of the missiles (at least, nearly all) are not centered on the model itself in the POF file...instead they're centered on the entire model, so usually the center is about where the thruster is. As a result they look kind of silly spinning around, off-center.

In fact (make a note of this FireCrack) the missiles HAVE to be centered on the thruster.  They cannot occupy physical space behind that point in the interface, or the window won't render properly.

[FireCrack]

Hmm.. i knew they had to be centered on the truster, but i thuaght that just had to do with making the thruster come from the right place.

Are you saying that if i have a bit of the model poking behind the thruster the game will go fubar?

[StratComm]

Yep.  See the Mantis bug about the EMP missile.

[WMCoolmon]

Mostly they don't spin because the math involved gives me a headache. I think all of the missiles (at least, nearly all) are not centered on the model itself in the POF file...instead they're centered on the entire model, so usually the center is about where the thruster is. As a result they look kind of silly spinning around, off-center.

In fact (make a note of this FireCrack) the missiles HAVE to be centered on the thruster.  They cannot occupy physical space behind that point in the interface, or the window won't render properly.

*Raises hand*

I'd rather the missiles be centered on the missile body, and try to make the window detect that, since I'm using a very ugly chunk of code to try and calculate the center of the missile. I could just disable that code for the "$tech model" option, it'd be more reliable and faster (right now it's doing a bunch of floating-point calculations), plus I could easily make the models rotate.

[Trivial Psychic]

For standard models, isn't there an option for techroom center, that differs from the actual center?  Couldn't we just set this to the exact center of the missile and have the code look for that when centering it in the loadout screen?

[Taristin]

Well, if we're using seperate models for tech images than for in game, why not just make the renderred model have it's axis in the center, but the game model axis by the thruster? It doesn't seem like it'd be difificult. If no tech pof found, fall back to the cbanim, no?

Or TP's sug may work too

[Galemp]

The bombs I made were really quick jobs because the stock models were so horribly ugly. There's plenty of room for improvement if we're going for THIS level of detail in the tech room, but medium-poly versions for in-game are still necessary.

[phreak]

May as well go the whole shebang and make glow and shine maps for these babies.  I could probably have it so missiles get lit by light so you can actually use the glow/shine maps.

[FireCrack]

The treb and Hornet already have shinemaps, and the Stilleto and Type One have glowmaps also..

[Col. Fishguts]

I could probably have it so missiles get lit by light so you can actually use the glow/shine maps.

I would like that . TBP has some huge ship-to-ship torps that look silly the way they are rendered now (full bright).

@Firecrack: Shine-/glowmapping isn't applied to missiles atm.

[Bobboau]

For standard models, isn't there an option for techroom center, that differs from the actual center? Couldn't we just set this to the exact center of the missile and have the code look for that when centering it in the loadout screen?

yes the ACEN point, I was thinking the exact same thing.

[WMCoolmon]

Hmm, I thought I tried that and had the same problem. I haven't directly poked at that code in awhile though.

I might be able to get away with submodel_render, though. At one time or another I was thinking of using that, but didn't know if any models used more than one submodel.

[Ulala]

So is there a release yet, or is this still WIP? I looked through the whole thread, but wanted to make sure I didn't miss the link. My eyes still haven't quite adjusted to HLPs new look.
[edit] They look fantastic by the way! I think I'll be mashing the counter-measure button just to get a good look more than defending myself. [/edit]

[FireCrack]

I still need to conver these and stuff, other than that, they are release worthy.

[Ulala]

[Mongoose]

A hi-poly countermeasure...

You are officially my hero.

[Charismatic]

Nice work, their beatifull.
Love the anit missle.