[Woomeister]

Mass values should be similar to FS2 retail. Fighters usually range from 100-200 mass.

[asyikarea51]

Hmm... on some destroyers I get really odd numbers, anywhere from 5 to 8 digits... and here I have a light fighter with a mass of over 300...

O_o <--- pondering look

guess I'll have to do a mass extraction of stock FS2 VPs/mv_models to get the mass values...

edit: Ezechiel is 1862

[Woomeister]

Don't go by the PSC autogenerated masses those are way off. I've had fighters with a mass of 6000 for that.

[asyikarea51]

PSC? PCS? ???

Point taken, will edit the POF's as necessary...

Yeah , Trashman's Athena has a default mass of 4000 over if I'm not wrong XD

[Woomeister]

Athena should be:
213.9201

[asyikarea51]

Ummm, following that, if fighters are around 100-200 mass, what about bombers, If I dun mind asking?

For cruisers/corvettes/destroyers/carriers/dreadnaughts/juggernaughts/knossos portals/other whatnot, I'll figure them out somehow... But then again, this is modding...

Point taken.

[Mobius]

Unless you're using jettinson cargo delay a correct mass isn't that helpful.

[Woomeister]

Mass will also determine how heavy a weapons impact will be on your ship when it hits you. The heavier the weapon and lighter the ship the more of a hit you take.
In a Jotun for example you will hardly notice when your getting hit by weaker guns because the Jotuns mass is high.

[Mobius]

Oh,I was meaning also....

[asyikarea51]

Once again, a question if no one minds.

Are these two being used in INF R2? If they are not (and if they are available for download somewhere), where can I get them?

Thanks in advance

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[Woomeister]

Yes to the first, since I took that screenshot
No to the second

[asyikarea51]

Okay, thanks. 

The second one really has an EA look to it... dang, if only I knew where to get it. A fighter staging point...?

Bangwal

edit GRRRRRHHH connection problems again... (, the very first time I use the emote on the HLPBB...)

[Snail]

Could you ask c193 to give you the second one to make it an archives ship? It could be the replacement for the Telemus (I think it fits through the Melia judging from the size comparison with the Orion, if it doesn't it could be a joint operation?).

That screams EA, it even uses the maps (well, after Sid invaded the thread anyway )

[Dark Hunter]

It looks like an early version of the Icanus to me. Hmmm... people seem to like that shape.

[Snail]

Not really, for the Icanus the side section would be filled with coolant systems, plasma cores, reactors and other things needed for making a super-big beam cannon. For that thing, it would probably be filled with fighters.

[Snail]

Sorry for double posting, but this is completely different and extremely off-topic from the previous post, but absolutely not worthy of its own topic (urg)...

After briefly thinking of the Gargant and the Diablo, I was wondering about somesort of Diablo-Gargant hybrid. Spikey like Gargant, but with the big arms stretching from the back like the Diablo. The Diablo arms will stretch all the way to the front, and the 'normal' arms of the Gargant will be stretched to a further point, and will also get some SUreds on the front (2x damage of USilv). The larger 'Diablo' arms will be armed with SUBFreds (6x damage of USilv). They will come down into a point to form either a OMGWTFBBQRed or a Subspace Rift Weapon.

Presenting, the SH Gargant Super Duper (Goober) Upgrade Class!!!

Whee!!! 8)

Also please note that the horrible picture is just to show you what is basically looks like, not actually something to be treated like an actual picture

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[Dark Hunter]

'Tis an excellent idea, Snail. 

I don't know if I'd call it an upgrade to the Gargant, though. Seeing as the Gargant isn't really a warship in the first place...

Maybe scale the weapons down a few (hundred) grades (x6 USilv power? Seriously, what's the point?), and make it Gigas-sized. Be a very veeery scary ship... 

[Snail]

But I was trying to design the ultimate super dooper goober Shivan mothership*!! So I was wondering if we could make the Gargant have big evil arm things.

*
So does everybody

[asyikarea51]

Huh?

That thing's a capship around the size of an Orion? I thought it was an installation... And I can't really imagine a mobile HQ in the FS universe, unless the Mobile HQ is just a destroyer...

I was looking at some of the older threads here and suggestions were made for fighter staging points. Thought maybe I'd like to try that out...

[asyikarea51]

eep! one more... (raises hand)

GTF Advanced Perseus... is it scaled to match the size of the MediaVPs Perseus? R1's one is smaller despite the extra missile rack up top... Or is the new Advanced Perseus the MediaVPs one, but with the third pod rigged onto it?

W/H/L MVP Perseus 18/11/23, R1 Adv Perseus 13/9/20

I'm also thinking about the SOF Horae... hopefully a correctly-sized one with better textures and a cockpit is made... Meguesses it should have 3 guns per side, and two on the chassis' rear, beneath the cockpit perhaps? (Not directly beneath the cockpit - the shots will just appear to come from there)

That'll give it the eight guns as found in R1, but without needing to "cram" two guns into a single barrel...

The U-shape firing pattern as found on the Hercules 1...

Just a thought if no one minds.